From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:32:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5DY6Uj_5H8Cc7QK1VYi_HCXE84ryoE2sNhyvk60=V8Vw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1506241233560.9487@uplift.swm.pp.se>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
>> As Dave said it would be nice see RRUL data from the same testbed. It
>> would be so nice if flint had a way to send different sized TCP packets… (I
>> guess this might be faked with MSS clamping in the router and relaying on
>> path MTU discovery?)
>
>
> What kind of tests should I run? I have rrul results now, both at the same
> time as running iperf3. I set iperf3 to run with 10 parallel streams,
> different MSS per test, and let it run for 30 seconds into the rrul test. So
> in all the tests, iperf3 session stops running half way into the rrul test.
>
> I set sqm to 500M up and down on eth0, ECN up and down, and not to squash
> DSCP in any direction.
>
> http://swm.pp.se/aqm/rrul-wrt1200ac-150624.pdf
From what I see here you are rarely, if ever, engaging fq_codel
properly. Latencies are pretty high. In particular, I would suspect
you are hitting offloads hard, and the current (fixed in linux 4.1)
codel drop algorithm stops dropping below "maxpacket", which was meant
in the ns2 code to be a MTU, but in the linux code ended up being a
TSO sized (64k!) packet.
tc -s qdisc show # will show the maxpacket.
> Tell me if there is more information I can provide or tests to run.
0) I tend to have a script for everything... I can give you an example
script in another email.
1) tc -s qdisc show dev whatever # will show actuall drop/mark statistics
2) Please run your flent tests with -x --disable-log
-x collects more metadata, --disable-log disables the automatic log
scaling which is so hard to discern on these plots.
Use -t "title" to differentiate between variables under test.
3) I also tend to use flent's --remote-metadata=root@your_openwrtbox
to get the stats on that box into the metadata. You have to add your
local .ssh/id_rsa.pub key to
your_openwrtbox:/etc/dropbear/authorized_keys file to do this.
4) With all that in hand, sticking up a tarball of the results makes
for easy plotting of various other graphs, and using the flent-gui,
you can combine results from each run easily, also.
5) try disabling offloads on all interfaces on the router (or running cake)
My usual suite of tests is rrul, rrul_be, tcp_1up, tcp_1down, and tcp_2up_delay.
and rtt_fair (if you have more than one target server available)...
all without the iperf stuff....
Your mss changing idea is interesting, and I would like to do a mod to
tcp_2up_delay to sort of match your iperf combination + flent to
totally capture all data.
6) I am pretty interested as to what happens *without* sqm at the max
forwarding rate with fq_codel engaged on all these tests.
>
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2015-06-19 14:44 [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 16:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-19 17:35 ` Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 20:12 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:40 ` Alan Jenkins
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2015-06-19 21:52 ` Luis E. Garcia
2015-06-19 23:32 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-20 5:52 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 2:41 ` Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 7:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 12:55 ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:09 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-23 17:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 18:15 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-24 5:21 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 5:19 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-06-25 3:07 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 3:32 ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25 9:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 10:26 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 20:13 ` Dave Taht
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2015-06-25 22:14 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 6:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 7:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 9:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
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2015-06-26 14:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:18 ` Jonathan Morton
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2015-06-26 19:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-06-29 7:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 7:54 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 7:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:10 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:17 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-06-29 7:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 8:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:42 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 9:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 10:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-29 13:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 13:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 13:46 ` dpreed
2015-06-29 16:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-30 13:58 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 16:20 ` dpreed
2015-06-30 19:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 8:23 ` David Lang
2015-07-01 10:32 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 11:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-01 15:37 ` dpreed
2015-06-29 13:42 ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 16:44 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-29 18:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 22:15 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 22:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 8:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 9:40 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:33 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 15:43 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 16:06 ` dpreed
2015-07-02 19:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-07-02 16:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-03 11:38 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 6:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 18:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 16:34 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 16:27 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 16:36 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:43 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 17:01 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:35 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 14:40 ` Dave Taht
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