From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-x235.google.com (ia-in-x0235.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86C2221F1D5 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ia0-f181.google.com with SMTP id k25so7370462iah.40 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:47:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lE9LKhY6dkN++kj4f1sdrWkhUdnxCjg3V0NDDk4B0qM=; b=XUH9rjT0oiWCFTq1JDL0yj1uygLaBApQRJGjCCh+RQ1s53GFYQsaVDBFnsK/dcRa0N U8+ydEzC37N4bKetOcSP/CptNpDHkrBAPRiDH3Nmk2hNwCReUow3IVc44e/kO1ZedCed uMKQZlIq69qkoCoAbyZ6A4Dhz57US2UG369ppR/R8F2lqUDyPkI2YCXY2TfAX+XarrbC ODXCmz+7sMzOqcXzW85RWodFRlHW2h7MOHKtSZK6YbBMB1n2PAoQjyNUxQ2NanHJP87B Y5eymaQGR7jZvemkVL552eC9DVupAIiOyVlP3mo2WU1bdakHEGOiG1oqWhyXq1b+Z1Ol 8EVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.168.102 with SMTP id zv6mr3851730igb.27.1359942456839; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.135.39 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:47:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1359940294.947925589@apps.rackspace.com> References: <2450269.5e6MBhORZ9@markc> <1359915996.128612322@apps.rackspace.com> <1359940294.947925589@apps.rackspace.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:47:36 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: dpreed@reed.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f83ab190e0f9204d4dc4746 Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] stanford talk/deluged in hardware/yurtlab X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:47:37 -0000 --e89a8f83ab190e0f9204d4dc4746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darn I wish I'd made it to that show today. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 5:11 PM, wrote: > http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/2/prweb9154394.htm (10 GigE FMC card) > > impressive. Seems to require a hpc (high pin count) board, which zed isn't= . > http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/1-2AJPAV.htm (1 GiGE FMC > card) > 625 eu. While I am painfully aware of how much it costs to step ahead of the bleeding edge, I think the odds are pointing harder and harder at doing a non-fpga design that does what I want... I may go back to looking at octeons or ti's new octeon killer. And/or leveraging a newer atheros reference board. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Dave Taht" > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:39pm > To: dpreed@reed.com > Cc: "Mark Constable" , > cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] stanford talk/deluged in hardware/yurtlab > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:26 AM, wrote: > >> It would be trivial to do this with a Zedboard. >> > > Well, need two network ports. Haven't figured out much on interfacing the > thing to offboard gear (I'd have liked it if it had a pci interface). So = is > interfacing up a second network card "trivial" on the I/Os provided? > > And wanted esata, or some high speed disk I/O interface for captures. > > I'd rather like to continue forward on the zedboard front. The prospect o= f > designing an ethernet chip that actually could incorporate fq_codel etc i= s > very exciting. The RGII interface is available to access directly, in > particular. > > > > > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Dave Taht" >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:17pm >> To: "Mark Constable" >> Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] stanford talk/deluged in hardware/yurtlab >> >> Well, I see it for 320. Then you need to add a SSD, and a decent >> network card, and I suppose it could be made to work. Awful big, tho, in= an >> era where I can get 1/2TB on an 2.5 inch SSD. >> >> What I'd wanted was closer to a dreamplug - 160 bucks, two network ports= , >> but with an internal SSD. bonus points if it fit into a 1U rack and ate = as >> little power as possible. >> >> Principal use case here is to be a "network monitor" with enough oomph t= o >> run stuff like cacti/mrtg/snmp tools, as well as do captures off of a >> mirrored switch port. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mark Constable wrote= : >>> >>>> On 2013-02-03 09:18am, Dave Taht wrote: >>>> > I'm grumpy, as it doesn't have an esata interface internally, >>>> apparently. >>>> >>>> https://www.google.com?q=3DHP+N40L+MicroServer >>>> >>>> I know this is no where near an embedded device but I just got one of >>>> these >>>> on sale (new model out) for $220 and I think it's the most useful >>>> all-round >>>> cheap server box I've ever seen. Some people have it running 16 GB ram >>>> and >>>> I've got mine booting off an SSD via external eSATA. Very well built >>>> with 2 >>>> x half height PCI slots (4 x eth port card?). Only missing USB3 ports >>>> and >>>> hot-swap drive space. And, very quiet with just an SSD. >>>> >>> >>> I'd be very interested to know how fast it could do packet header >>> captures. >>> >>> Line rate (gigE) would be good. >>> >>> Does it do BQL? (what is the onboard ethernet chips) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >>>> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave T=E4ht >>> >>> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: >>> http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave T=E4ht >> >> Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: >> http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html >> > > > > -- > Dave T=E4ht > > Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: > http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html > --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html --e89a8f83ab190e0f9204d4dc4746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darn I wish I'd made it to that show today.

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 5:11 PM, <dpreed@reed.com> wrot= e:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/2/prweb91543= 94.htm (10 GigE FMC card)


=A0impress= ive. Seems to require a hpc (high pin count) board, which zed isn't.


http://www.xilinx.com/produc= ts/boards-and-kits/1-2AJPAV.htm (1 GiGE FMC card)

625 eu. While I am painfully aware of how much it costs to step ah= ead of the bleeding edge, I think the odds are pointing harder and harder a= t doing a non-fpga design that does what I want...

I may go back to = looking at octeons or ti's new octeon killer.

And/or leveraging a newer atheros reference board.
=A0

=A0

-----Original Message= -----
From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:39pm
To: dpreed@reed.com
Cc: "Mark Constable"= ; <markc@renta.net<= /a>>, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] stanford talk/deluged in hardware/yurtlab
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On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:26 AM, <dpreed@reed.co= m> wrote:

It would be trivial to d= o this with a Zedboard.


Well, need two network ports. Haven't figured out much on inte= rfacing the thing to offboard gear (I'd have liked it if it had a pci i= nterface). So is interfacing up a second network card "trivial" o= n the I/Os provided?

And wanted esata, or some high speed disk I/O interface for captures.
I'd rather like to continue forward on the zedboard front. The pr= ospect of designing an ethernet chip that actually could incorporate fq_cod= el etc is very exciting. The RGII interface is available to access directly= , in particular.




=A0

-----Original Message---= --
From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 3= , 2013 1:17pm
To: "Mark Constable" <markc@renta.net>
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.= net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] stanford talk/deluged in hardware/yurtlab
<= br>

Well, I see it for 320. = Then you need to add a SSD, and a decent network card, and I suppose it cou= ld be made to work. Awful big, tho, in an era where I can get 1/2TB on an 2= .5 inch SSD.

What I'd wanted was closer to a dreamplug - 160 bucks, two network = ports, but with an internal SSD. bonus points if it fit into a 1U rack and = ate as little power as possible.

Principal use case here is to be a = "network monitor" with enough oomph to run stuff like cacti/mrtg/= snmp tools, as well as do captures off of a mirrored switch port.



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Dave Taht <d= ave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mark Constable <= markc@renta.net>= ; wrote:
On 2013-02-03 09:18am, Dave Taht wrote:
> I'm grumpy, as it= doesn't have an esata interface internally, apparently.

https://www.google.com?q=3DHP+N40L+MicroServer

I know this is= no where near an embedded device but I just got one of these
on sale (= new model out) for $220 and I think it's the most useful all-round
cheap server box I've ever seen. Some people have it running 16 GB ram= and
I've got mine booting off an SSD via external eSATA. Very well= built with 2
x half height PCI slots (4 x eth port card?). Only missin= g USB3 ports and
hot-swap drive space. And, very quiet with just an SSD.

I'd be very interested to know how fast it could do packet hea= der captures.

Line rate (gigE) would be good.

Does it do BQL= ? (what is the onboard ethernet chips)





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