From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x230.google.com (mail-ob0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DBF221F500; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id wn1so14582533obc.7 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:06:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BoF5O7B2HjkjJOdt6vhYmsHR93nTYgopuX75xSXTzCY=; b=MqbX2z3+5n8fb2jTNW0sdRI5eKFSHxAq1tSAoe4Dca0s2cOaJKJWFovW/jxNA9LAzN dKlDfgALbVHFDhBi3XCqcHj7TyP2eSPfX2b66Rsunz8edifJIeDsGZuCeFiVfXMjUjPQ EN2ycONr6/0cedB27uJuyxt1bMwAFYG+CQKPUWIscOrwaprK+sHsX0JpFYn2EX0AnCXr in0/Szsh/JYwcm8MKxHksVFi1abLgV1+lZ8JETI4RfViJ7QFN+wBDE5+q8SCeLHFpmB5 BRwumOwC6gOi/YiF3YZ57JZlqp7NG/m+J7VPxW0YVo8l7x6d4uieG+ByIrGCHBex307D CxSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.96.129 with SMTP id ds1mr2888478oeb.43.1410458768097; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.227.76 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:06:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:06:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] IEEE 802.11 meeting sept 14-21 athens, greece X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:06:37 -0000 Two bits of potential inspiration for the morning: Vint Cerf, "Bufferbloat and other Internet Challenges" http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=3D&arnumber=3D6886125 and for a little bit of revolutionary fervour: https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/eG8wZh7Qshs On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I am, at the last minute, attending the IEEE 802.11 meeting in Athens, Gr= eece > where I *may* be giving a talk or two, one general to the bufferbloat > problem and effort, the other about what might be done to make wifi > better, which includes talking to how to deal with aggregated macs, > and reducing other latencies. Who knows, perhaps a new WG will come > out of it. > > I haven't given a talk on wifi since the one at MIT [1], and while I'm > assembling stuff from a rather large backlog of personally collected > data... > > ... if any of y'all have any additional data (netperf-wrapper, > netalyzer, other) on wifi behavior today, trendlines of use, bugs, > links to relevant papers, information on what's been going on at IEEE > (and I have never attended a meeting, so don't know how they work, or > what level to talk at, either!), ringing phrases, or other info, to > bring to bear, please share!? > > I know I'm not the only one often upset, at how wifi can misbehave. > This is a pure gem, featuring Steve Jobs, starting about 17 seconds > in: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1-oIL9cLHDc > > lastly: will anyone else from these lists be there? > > > [1] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/bloat/2013-February/001351.ht= ml > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast