From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5911F21F16A for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id k13so7899613iea.8 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:02:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTGadl2GcGq+JNwnj/Z76DYhfJ4FbbfQ92eh4I7OHyc=; b=ZzB+LE07bTxKXnb86OGEWbC5ZemXhuqwzCSWN2kvhkVeH/7gZUKS64d0I5rSGtSdym qw0r8Blkt/CF5cErjxTMqGoFK/3s0Eeeuq5InS4neupz31ct9hN1vZ4HEDwZyeLR8EP+ LY9S2Qm2SM/HBUlkqaL58LPr6zDD4gJu2xHxcICSPvG/QlgBNnK+bR/OW4rxH1UaxgL+ SszGNkJLW3kurRG7YOoxVi4jf/23DI1YP7j4KipEcaHZt5zfWxX+3jJt0FzseFebbTkW fXg3CbqSj9x551FaPdsy2x6kpIURY7om8bx0/ECmc1n22jnOo870qFNlD22aCPsMJYGb cbNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.56.139 with SMTP id a11mr12463998igq.86.1356267749515; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.135.39 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:02:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54532012A5393D4E8F57704A4D55237E42A2907F@CH1PRD0510MB381.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:02:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: David Lang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Richard Brown , "" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] WNDR3700v4 is out... X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:02:30 -0000 On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:27 AM, David Lang wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Richard Brown wrote: > >> The wndr3700v4 is out, and appears to be a good hardware upgrade from >> the 3800 series, but it's not supported by openwrt yet. >> >> I took a look at their GPL source distribution. And yea! it's openwrt. >> And boo! it's ancient openwrt, for example dnsmasq is 2.39 (current is >> 2.64), and their kernel is 2.6.31. >> >> I think the cpu and ethernet chips tho look a lot better: Atheros >> AR9344+ AR9580(5GHz)+AR9344(2.4GHz). It's my hope these do ipv6 >> better. >> >> I found a WNDR3700v4 at the local Staples for $99.99. I wasn't brave >> enough to buy it. Here's an image of the box so you can recognize it... > > > I've purchased one, but I don't have the openwrt experiance to bootstrap > this. I have built my own openwrt images for the 3700v2 and 3800 and have > been using Linux since the 0.99 kernel days, so I am very comfortable > mucking with kernel compile options. > > If someone is willing to coach me through the process, I'd be happy to do > the experimentation. I've ordered one too, but I would argue that a concerted effort would need to be made on the part of some core #openwrt devs to get it anywhere. The cpu is a mips 74k. It's a dual issue core with a very, very long pipeline, so although it boasts twice the instructions per clock than the 24k, and in simple benchmarks like drystone, rocks, that deep pipeline isn't helpful for tons of code. (IMHO). It doesn't look like the cache architecture is improved much, either. It's not clear what the ethernet driver is, there appear to be legal issues on the equivalent broadcom ethernet device, and so on, and so forth. You will need, at least, a 3.3v serial port and adaptor, and jtag might be needed. If you want to learn about just how painful it is to bring up a new board, this is your chance! It makes sense to start a thread on openwrt-devel about doing the port. https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=3D41092 And/or find some other still supported hardware still being shipped by some other manufacturer. Frankly, if we truly have to jump platforms, I'd rather go arm. > David Lang > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html