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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: dpreed@deepplum.com
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	 "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] linus vs wireguard
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 12:04:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5aaM2+mpM_hoUC=OmpMAJyUUtSHLOm=H3fg-9YOjWTaw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1533235812.1032775@apps.rackspace.com>

Dear David:

I would dearly like to find some folk to redteam wireguard before it
hits the kernel. Know anyone?

In particular I wonder how the container-space can be attacked. (
https://www.wireguard.com/#ready-for-containers )


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:50 AM dpreed@deepplum.com <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
>
> Please note that my comments are from someone who, unlike Edge Security, has been involved in secure systems design off and on since 1973, not 2003 which is the level of expertise claimed by Edge Security. And I think I am the first person to write an automated system kernel exploit generation tool at about that time, working on the Multics Security Kernel project. The explotss generated searched for cases where the kernel entry points were sensitive to concurrent changes in other processors, just like Spectre and Meltdown exploit concurrent microarchitecture stuff.
>
> This is why putting complexint in the hands of kernel developers who share a single protection domain (the kernel) is REALLY dangerous. It's not a theoretical pedantic issue.
>
> But hey, Linus doesn't give a shit.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:26pm
> To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] linus vs wireguard
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [GIT] Networking
> To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Network Development
> <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Linux Kernel Mailing List
> <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:37 PM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >
> > Fixes keep trickling in:
>
> Pulled.
>
> Btw, on an unrelated issue: I see that Jason actually made the pull
> request to have wireguard included in the kernel.
>
> Can I just once again state my love for it and hope it gets merged
> soon? Maybe the code isn't perfect, but I've skimmed it, and compared
> to the horrors that are OpenVPN and IPSec, it's a work of art.
>
>               Linus
>
>
> --
>
> Dave Täht
> CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-669-226-2619
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>


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      reply	other threads:[~2018-08-02 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-08-02 18:26   ` Dave Taht
2018-08-02 18:41     ` dpreed
2018-08-02 18:56       ` Dave Taht
2018-08-02 19:25         ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-08-02 20:08           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-02 18:50     ` dpreed
2018-08-02 19:04       ` Dave Taht [this message]

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