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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat]  Dave Täht quoted in the ACLU blog
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:48:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5j=v-H+a9z86ajs=qev+t00F798o4qX7ybAVaMPGYr5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4mvCad6SbGcUKB_XbrXUjSivuWL5o15coMKKT9JeYiTw@mail.gmail.com>

I burned an hour ranting over there. Naturally on the post, I got a
javascript error. I miss netnews.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote:
>> On 06/24/2014 12:45 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
>>>
>>> In an age where you have, say, gbit fiber to your business, it makes quite
>>> a lot of sense from a security and maintenence perspective
>>> to be hosting your own data and servers on your own darn premise, not
>>> elsewhere.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps, but where does having gigabit fibre to a business imply the
>> business has the space, power, and cooling to host all the servers it might
>> need/wish to have?
>
> I didn't say there aren't compelling reasons also to co-locate in a data center,
> but for many uses today, being able to host a basic website, some service,
> email, etc at your own location, is perfectly doable, and possibly
> preferable to co-locating places where things like this are happening:
>
> http://fish2.com/ipmi/
>
> or this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
>
>>
>>
>>> I am glad gfiber exists to put a scare into certain monopolists, but
>>> even then I'd be tons happier if municipalities treated basic wired
>>> connectivity as we do roads. One of the great "Secrets" of silicon
>>> valley is it got wired for fiber early, through the vision and
>>> foresight of people like Brian Reid and everybody got easy access.
>>
>>
>> That must be a really well-kept secret as I am aware of no fibre running to
>> my house in Sunnyvale :)
>
> The fiber loop around palo alto has quite the inspiring story behind
> it. Maybe brian will
> write it down one day, or already has.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Reid_(computer_scientist)
>
>
>> rick jones
>> speaking for myself alone
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Täht
>
> NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_indecent.article



-- 
Dave Täht

NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_indecent.article

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-24 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-24 18:51 [Cerowrt-devel] " Rich Brown
2014-06-24 19:29 ` Dave Taht
2014-06-24 19:36   ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Steinar H. Gunderson
2014-06-24 19:45   ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2014-06-24 20:01     ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Rick Jones
2014-06-24 20:08       ` Dave Taht
2014-06-24 21:48         ` Dave Taht [this message]
2014-06-24 21:38       ` Michael Richardson
2014-06-28  1:10         ` David Lang
2014-06-28  4:06           ` David P. Reed
2014-06-28  4:28             ` Dave Taht
2014-06-28 16:16               ` [Cerowrt-devel] Low Power UPSes (Was: Re: [Bloat] Dave Täht quoted in the ACLU blog) Joseph Swick
2014-06-30  3:45                 ` David Lang
2014-06-30 12:00                   ` dpreed
2014-06-28 16:49               ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Dave Täht quoted in the ACLU blog Theodore Ts'o

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