Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project
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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com>
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] speeding up builds
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:42:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5shqcaT6Xqo5C65wBMP1qapVFVPzP=9zr53t6BKRa8JQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6giZ5CiwFdBX3xBUzozpHqT_Ejj05EfjdDYUbOjCZ_1g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I finally acquired a machine with 32GB of ram, an intel 3930k (6
>>>> cores), and an SSD.
>>>>
>>>> I put the build_dir, /tmp and /var/tmp on ramdisks, and...
>>>>
>>>> This cut a complete cerowrt build (including toolchain) down from >
>>>> 3.5 hrs down to under 45 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Without the toolchain rebuild, but after a make clean (to rebuild the
>>>> packages and kernel), it's about 28 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> I can see that it is possible to parallelize things more to maybe chop
>>>> another 30% of of things...
>>>> ...but I'm glad to have 3 hrs of my life back, per build.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to figure out to what extent modern hardware would enhance
>>>> the existing buildbot system.
>>>> Now I know...
>>>
>>> odd my laptop will do a full build with tool chain in about an
>>> hour..... its only a core i3 with 6gb and an ssd
>>
>> The best box that I had was huchra, a dual quad-core xeon circa 2006,
>> with 8GB of memory and mirrored drives.
>>
>> A 'full build' of cero is 578 packages, some of which are rather big,
>> as well as building the sdk and cross development kit.
>>
>> For comparison purposes, I just built linux-3.3.4 for ubuntu (so this
>> includes the kpkg overhead)
>>
>> real    11m12.286s
>> user    67m11.076s
>> sys     7m19.955s
>>
>> I am puzzled. I end up with only 75MB for disk buffers, according to
>> top, and I would assume that 25% of memory in this case would be good
>> for disk buffers.
>>
>> I do like using ramdisks for this job, (why write to media unless you
>> have to?) but it seems saner to have the disk cache, caching.
>
> Ah. I assume that 'cached' here means disk buffers. Maybe.
>
>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:      32927452   28799604    4127848          0      75600   25122928
> -/+ buffers/cache:    3601076   29326376
> Swap:     33529852    1527668   32002184
>
> Believe me, after doing the number of builds I've done this year, and
> especially in the past two months, finding ways to shave even a few
> minutes more off the build(s) would be a godsend.
>
> This particular box can do 64GB of ram, and doing that would add two
> channels to the memory controller, assuming I plugged the ram in
> wrong...
>
> anyway, a pure kernel build (no kpkg),
>
> time make -j 24
>
> real    7m33.494s
> user    73m3.146s
> sys     6m31.648s
>
> I see from the phoronix benchmarks that they claim a box of this
> caliber can do a kernel build in under 60sec, but I doubt they are
> using a kernel of this size.
>
> I've tossed the kernel .deb files, kernel config, script to make it a
> deb, and patches here:
>
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~d/debloat/
>
> (note - TOTALLY untested on x86_64 as yet -)
>
> I'd gotten out of the habit of maintaining debloat-testing mostly
> because doing a kernel build was taking so bloody long.

And I just did a build right to the ssd, no ramdisk...

real	7m41.516s
user	71m6.395s
sys	6m24.132s

So it looks like, at least at present, with an SSD I/O is not the
bottleneck... Now, from a buildbot perspective I'd really rather not
light up a SSD but use up ram. Although I'm told they have got better.

I still dream of 60s kernel builds tho... hah. the phoronix build test
is available to all...

/me has cpu cycles to burn and is working on something else

-- 
Dave Täht
SKYPE: davetaht
US Tel: 1-239-829-5608
http://www.bufferbloat.net

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-30  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-30  0:15 Dave Taht
2012-04-30  1:42 ` Outback Dingo
2012-04-30  1:59   ` Dave Taht
2012-04-30  2:24     ` Dave Taht
2012-04-30  2:42       ` Dave Taht [this message]
2012-04-30  2:52         ` Dave Taht
2012-04-30 15:14   ` [Cerowrt-devel] Pointers on build setup? dpreed
2012-04-30 15:50     ` Dave Taht
2012-04-30 16:50       ` Dave Taht
2012-04-30 23:32         ` Maciej Soltysiak
2012-04-30 23:46           ` Dave Taht
2012-04-30 19:15       ` dpreed

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