From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x233.google.com (mail-ob0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C438F3B302 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ob0-x233.google.com with SMTP id j9so41386267obd.3 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsR5E6SOIlqyD2feZlM3J7Btf4AypHAfBCj9N5FU+B8=; b=WDGF25AdLT4NVs1HXehOR6ltFtYgSTBxcpb9rR9pzmlgTS5kr3lYt+gY+NBTqLzrL6 wFhJI9OCVY1P/JgQaQaMN5arVNAN60k/TaSI3OxbXE5Uju9HXtL/h/XCaRfoOcq8k/q6 HY8nwIBJYBZ8Ft/3tpfEjjzZucLCd2SZKSiRZkSALLnI4sruU1/c0xN7bivcUGNf864n heqIR0cV27tAYrLIsqbqkTC/Zi/EfVkImxvn+pHL+D+h0FxdFtWtaw7mXuBwwB15OD76 UPQzHM4Yu7vL2CIYI85CDYg09AppW35diYQTREFApgv+RZFiiekcIbQHgLxOfZYgtGtr gXKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsR5E6SOIlqyD2feZlM3J7Btf4AypHAfBCj9N5FU+B8=; b=jt6JzspspDWQZ4lkTA4qoW5IpneA80FLJl9wqozQKYuTeZ6QEW9aJDyL6J8/mqsJxH pX9uQRXsdGicMzoVGi4ah1SAtnVZeYfxgd2B1A2dhYEh24RTrreDWjSBp0GB1FyRJRVi kSd29gxekJ7XwSZGQfZKCJn9fAtWaMyPCiV/bk1QZs9N950fZsuCIilfmiWzeKbn7rja boEEovPiwDfVEozwT9YV98GpgSPTPPHchZNu/24OASTgtDtSz56ui9coBFe0ZZCKzMq8 Pc/jBhHfEpR0zny9RniHT2oOf6Z0lWnNfT+Gi2yxpdNXALRLi2Y2oHhsUuPgmUFJWFIA 0Exg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXimcvxNzW8iKb6zBiCwOCzPFGozUQUmk2oUFL9mZhJ1Bo6KsOvLAHdpSj/hcKp3m2k0MU4Hq4J/wp17Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.102.67 with SMTP id fm3mr6396766oeb.61.1460592704116; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.79.215 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:11:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] update on that nuc I was fighting with X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 00:11:44 -0000 Hoo, boy, did I have issues. I finally got around to trying to get it up and running linux. For reference, this was the: - Jetway NU93-2930 NUC Form Factor Intel Celeron N2930 SoC Bay Trail 2 Intel LAN, 2 Display, 2 x HDMI, 1 x SATA2 port, full-size mSATA, half-size mini-PCIE, 1 External COM, 3xUSB2, 1xUSB3, Audio, 9V-24V DC-in (size 4" x 4" x 1.5"). which I got from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Jetway-JC320U93W-2930-B-Intel-Celeron-Fanless/dp/B00S= HYW6US?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1&redirect=3Dtrue&ref_=3Doh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00 This came with an intel wifi card that I pulled out and tried to replace with an ath10k. 1) Sometimes the hdmi wouldn't work (it also did not work on either of my admittedly older monitors really at all. So I bought a new monitor to get it up, and maybe I got lucky, but that new monitor "just worked". Well, it turns out there is a BIOS fix here, which I have not installed yet= . http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/NU93.html 2) No linux OS I tried would write a workable EFI boot area for it until I tried ubuntu 16.04 beta last night. There is no way to turn EFI off, either. 3) I'd tried to use a msata + raid to sata adaptor. this is usually not recognized on a soft boot, and the thing drops to an EFI shell the raid component (mirroring) would work sometimes, and other times it would fall back on the "fast mode" which joins the two cards together serially. Naturally this doesn't work either. I am going to ditch this idea entirely as a well intentioned experiment for making something more reliable that actually made it more complex with more failure modes. I'm going to skip trying one of these, also. http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Memory-Card-Adapter-Converter/dp/B017QXZGR0/ref= =3Dsr_1_2?s=3Delectronics&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460592608&sr=3D1-2&keywords=3Dsd= -card+raid 4) It has a full-length msata slot - and a half length pci-e slot. Despite these sharing a connector type the big slot appears to be msata only. There is no jumper or bios setting to change it to something else. I have had nucs that had the full length slot be mini-pcie capable before, but not this one, apparently. ... Of these, this last appears the most damning - without a full length mini-pcie slot, it's mostly not useful for my purposes. I DID need a router/delay box, but I was hoping to also feed it the ath10k full length card. Neither long form mini-pcie cards I tried in it worked. BQL support works, at least. It's more than fast enough to forward at a gigabit, and cake can shape to a gbit also. It gets pretty warm when doing a big compile, but is otherwise silent. So it is suitable as a non-wifi x86 based router so long as you are willing to install a very recent linux os on it, and a half length wifi card. And go msata (Or perhaps pfsense has better EFI, I didn't try it, am not going to...) Ah, well, off to review all the other recommendations on the list, I'd really hoped to get this box up on the ath10k this past week. Also somewhat tried was an intel galeio board... --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! http://blog.cerowrt.org