From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01C2F21F1ED for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn6so4878381wib.10 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:21:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=15gSJ2uxx34CItC++cXIlbjwMl3w5kF+juffXvxMrn4=; b=P1+rpRyf8t4PH8YK+YidSGvI+wYZE1+c5jdx+6v/4CHuuOJ32jOnoWLzU26Sy76Lpt a6GHrfyo1dTBt/eCoNpL0+btNeVLlS/fWwGVPn90GyfXQ3+YarrMQ62EGeCz0q9CDFNC h2CS4ho5Usg44zjdLYtKtidn9RCq2YPBfKH4zWi8ozgXGrc787BeCZsC0HxKzW9REh/5 WD3zJ+mFgJDCo9odasuGDx4lVvvdSsPi0fPW6htx7HJLpaw5g6WSZPjQVJpM/u9+NNdE JENzbKVXgEUtA/yrs/wQ31wQQ3odd3f8HZAKhXi77Rc0oaLllf4OZ6pGwhV1xpRTclKq rFaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.79.230 with SMTP id m6mr4560700wix.19.1384460461962; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.51.5 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:21:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:21:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] ietf report (Brief) X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:21:04 -0000 I think I should take the time to write down and sort out all that happened at ietf. But that will take time I don't have (I dictated) right now. The big thing worth watching is bruce schneier's plenary talk... http://recordings.conf.meetecho.com/Recordings/watch.jsp?recording=3DIETF88= _TECH_PLENARY&chapter=3Dpart_7 I am increasingly annoyed about the actions of various intelligence agencie= s. Some highlights from the aqm wg. 1) The pie folk announced the selection of a variant of pie as the default and mandatory *on* aqm algorithm for docsis 3.1 cable modems. There is support for alternate algos, and nothing has been decided for CMTSes or docsis 3.0. It's going to take years for hardware to appear on this... I am very happy for something to be defaulting on. 2) Jim and I gave a preso based on cero + netem in the yurtlab documenting some of the work we've been doing to evaluate fq_codel vs pie vs drop tail http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-aqm-3.pdf (I really, really, really appreciate you all helping to make cero stable enough to generate data we can trust on this and the atm fixes in particular) At RMCAT I got volunteered to look hard at the various proposals for webrtc congestion control. If you haven't fiddled with it yet, load up a current chrome or firefox web browser and tr At ICCRG the presentation that grabbed my eye was google's on paced tcp and the tcp reordering fixes. In particular I hope the reordering stuff at the tcp layer gets rid of the need for it to happen at the wireless later. I look forward, very much, to ripping that code out. At TSVWG the Quic presentation was awesome. I got a chance for a more private and in-depth brief the night before from jim roberts. He has much passion and much data.... I encourage y'all to turn it on in chrome and try it.... You can browse through the proceedings here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/88/materials.html --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html