From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 322B721F233 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u56so1193906wes.9 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:01:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pztr9cXuO0W/cP6vR7OMfou9AghCO2YvlRXpzrOPeUA=; b=kzs6bB4Dr5VcA8G5NrBElPTfv2Je3Mt1j67tO8qYPiqhXXUNWdgu3kDBDNb9UZEEDu CWGOhmWuXmvlaVcn1Ve1//EcGpu2obArjE0+lojmEhuH+mVYEelzCedoh5pg8SbUrFqE giztxw/t1WgaEOgKAXuf5K8vyotxmU/CH8B2L6LZLwz+1AFdi5E/yoT3kF9WJ573Utdz aZ4dP1FBwpADjK0iXYR9eqFNxt9oRavdLwC0cE2LnzFvcRHqiFuVoDa0C2XifwgyQsMk RxrFqnu9vmyoJ9UYG4kXHR2JCCyLf9JgJahG1AGHuulh4xnFXPHWrRJde3Us95twIDLG 6neA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.76.166 with SMTP id l6mr742399wiw.17.1397793707959; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.177.10 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:01:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140418022757.GT16334@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <20140418022757.GT16334@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:01:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Jim Reisert AD1C , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Opportunity to plug CeroWRT X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 04:01:50 -0000 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 07:17:19PM -0600, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: >> Ask Slashdot: Which Router Firmware For Bandwidth Management? >> >> http://ask.slashdot.org/story/14/04/17/2018234/ask-slashdot-which-router-firmware-for-bandwidth-management > > Done :-) while I love what we've accomplished here, and love the community that's developed around CeroWrt and bufferbloat.net, and I'm proud of all the problems we've solved together... "Plugging CeroWrt" is missing the point. What *I* want, at least, from our efforts, is for the ideas and code to spread, and to make it into *everything*, every router, every switch, every device that has to deal with a bandwidth disparity, or ipv6, or needs better security, everywhere in the world, and to make a better internet, for everybody. And I'd like to reduce the bug count, by a lot. Cero is the spanish word for zero. WRT - which is to me a play on the english word "wart" - Zero Warts I'd like to get past the darn wifi bug soon and to the point that the only bug reports that we get are ones like these: http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/330 - and to one day be able to solve them, fully, too. I'd like to have software that could one way sail around the asteroids, without patching. (and ponies!) The context of the slashdot request is someone is looking for an 802.11ac router with a good qos/packet scheduling/aqm system. We haven't got a 802.11ac router supported yet, but we've tested SQM extensively enough at a range of bandwidths ranging from 384k to 200Mbit, so it's my hope that Cero's SQM system could be used on all openwrt derived devices - and the ideas in it used in everything. so it would be GREAT if the requester merely leveraged that on their new hyperfast dual core arm box and reported back on what happened. and even better if *all* the posters on that thread got something that worked well true, and told another friend, and another. I'm not convinced SQM is fully correct, even yet, and am not sure about the streamboost stuff, or openwrt's qos-scripts, or dd-wrts - all leveraging fq_codel - but they are all vastly better than what they were last year due to our efforts, and they can only get better, due to a solid theoretical foundation and codebase. (Getting to where it just works is going to take a while longer, it seems!) So if you feel an urge to post to slashdot, please talk to the specific technologies we've fixed, and if you pimp cerowrt there or anywhere else, make sure to point out that we're out on the bleeding edge of research here, 5 years ahead of nearly everyone else, and it's sometimes a rough ride! ... Earlier tonight, Jim wrote me that Comcast just lit up IPv6 in boston and: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: > Everything just worked. Congrats. > > Jim Thank you *all* for making that happen! ... Weekend before last I took a little time to do a proof of concept implementation on the edgerouter lte, and tried to convince them to do the essential QA work then required to embed it in their shipping products. ... Then I got buried with coping with the ramifications of the heartbleed security disaster. Earlier today I decided that no matter if felix's workaround for the bug #442 wifi problem works or not, that I needed to take a vacation. I came very close to getting on a plane this evening. Surfs up! http://www.nicaraguasurfreport.com/reportlist.php?id_secc=25&x_date=2014-04-17&z_date=%3D%2C%27%2C%27 I may or may not get felix's patch in before I go, but before sunday for sure, and I'll take a wndr3800 with me and test the heck out of it, with y'all - hopefully in environments that will twiddle the bug - and if it works halfway decently, leave it behind with the owner of my favorite coffee shop down there http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g528745-d1493999-Reviews-El_Gato_Negro-San_Juan_del_Sur_Rivas_Department.html before departing. If I have spare luggage space, I might pack a couple, and drop them off at one of the local schools https://www.facebook.com/Proyecto.BPP That was my mission, before bloat blew it all up. Years ago, when another dave burnt out, and left the industry, I wrote him a thank you note. http://the-edge.blogspot.com/2003/06/wireless-connection.html 10 years from now, if we are truly successful, you'll be able to get reliable, fast, ipv6 based internet, anywhere in the world, and you too, will be able to point to the box blinking in the corner, and you can say, "you wuz there first".