From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x234.google.com (mail-ob0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AE0021F404; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by obcvb8 with SMTP id vb8so14029397obc.0; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:52:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HzGuw0Zb4dDtjtVvzWbyLt99JFleRWMSJ3GdodpQ3xM=; b=XZ6fvS/EdYY1/UpUd7irakbxODuZUBt7W7yO08CDT1fQe5PMjN0dyQsjtrfFHapGpo A3HpynhwToDKBVlAInyX2Ldrt2LT4eGJMQR7im6ZFU8D9UUKbGD4/v/yarsWuDdCCw27 PzOiDSbfvzde59KXETwROxchfPnyK2JRzGHbXKuUMonzejUjrQGBDNRYlY93NZC9CvdE jGxCsTz4Xyvke0vF41aDziRkbVjCigJCtA40I0G8PYpYKfq+GJYXk3gkpQgMA2qCXSDG bwxvBKc1AZM2ejxdA8h+fQS3QhR3xuTdCeo7Sbo6s71U50jInWZu7ppfOVw/OTUSk6UM OdiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.62.70 with SMTP id l67mr8809876oia.59.1425606775942; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.51.66 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:52:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:52:55 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] esr and sugarland: trying to remember the times when cerowrt was fun X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 01:53:25 -0000 > I did my best to put into play in the cerowrt and bufferbloat projects > the 19 ideas he long ago laid out here, after discussing the hows, > whys, and wheres with him. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar > > I could write pages upon pages on how each of those rules applied and > worked out for us here. Actually, a homework assignment for anyone that wants to write something up would be to pick one of those rules and describe how it applied (or not) to what we did here. What has worked? What didn't? What can we do better this time? > There were many other lessons in the books, two lessons in particular, > not covered in the above link, and I can't remember which book the > were in, but basically they were: "The best people don't work for > you", and that a GREAT business model for the use of open source was > that "being open and collaborative gets things done faster - and thus > you win - BIG - on time to market. Time to market can mean > *everything*. " > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb