I usually kill off the firewall rules for an internal router almost completely. Recently, I didn't do that, and didn't have the external interface connected, so a new cerowrt-3.10.50-1 install automagically meshed with another router over wifi. ...and didn't run the default firewall rules at all. I first noticed that /etc/firewall.user wasn't run (which is the lousy place I'm using to export the /24 local network via babel), so I didn't have connectivity to the next hop mesh... and then I checked to see there were no iptables rules in place at all. So, some trigger for running the firewall "fw3 load" doesn't run unless there is an external ethernet interface up in cerowrt. And arguably it should run pretty early. So somewhere there is a missing trigger?? to load the fw... (and I hope this is a cerowrt specific bug and it did use to work) ... and I'd really rather run this out of /etc/config/network somehow ip route add unreachable my.subnet.add.ress/24 -- Dave Täht NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_indecent.article