* [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have @ 2015-03-16 17:01 Dave Taht 2015-03-16 17:34 ` David Lang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2015-03-16 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cerowrt-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 497 bytes --] 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. So far that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an alternative. 2) We need a new box that anyone can use that should be available for 2-3 years to come. 3) I'd like to be focused mostly on wifi, personally. Do we have more top-level problems than this? -- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 776 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have 2015-03-16 17:01 [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have Dave Taht @ 2015-03-16 17:34 ` David Lang 2015-03-16 17:35 ` Dave Taht 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: David Lang @ 2015-03-16 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Taht; +Cc: cerowrt-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/Plain, Size: 474 bytes --] On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. So far > that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an alternative. If you are using a x86 processor, how much cpu does this take? David Lang > 2) We need a new box that anyone can use that should be available for 2-3 > years to come. > > 3) I'd like to be focused mostly on wifi, personally. > > Do we have more top-level problems than this? > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 164 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have 2015-03-16 17:34 ` David Lang @ 2015-03-16 17:35 ` Dave Taht 2015-03-16 17:49 ` David Lang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Dave Taht @ 2015-03-16 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Lang; +Cc: cerowrt-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 941 bytes --] On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > > 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. So far >> that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an >> alternative. >> > > If you are using a x86 processor, how much cpu does this take? diddly. > > David Lang > > > 2) We need a new box that anyone can use that should be available for 2-3 >> years to come. >> >> 3) I'd like to be focused mostly on wifi, personally. >> >> Do we have more top-level problems than this? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > > -- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2081 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have 2015-03-16 17:35 ` Dave Taht @ 2015-03-16 17:49 ` David Lang 2015-03-19 16:01 ` Richard Smith 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: David Lang @ 2015-03-16 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Taht; +Cc: cerowrt-devel On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote: > >> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. So far >>> that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an >>> alternative. >>> >> >> If you are using a x86 processor, how much cpu does this take? > > > diddly. this isn't sold as an AP, it's a bit pricy, but not insanely expensive ($200-250 depending on options) 1GHz dual core AMD cpu, 4G 1066RAM 2 mini PCIe 3xGid-E being that it's not a consumer AP, it's nto going to be as cheap, but it's also not going to be phased out as quickly in favor of a new model. using a mini PCIe wifi card makes it easier to switch to something with good support. does it look like it would do the job? David Lang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have 2015-03-16 17:49 ` David Lang @ 2015-03-19 16:01 ` Richard Smith 2015-03-19 19:32 ` Aaron Wood 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Richard Smith @ 2015-03-19 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Lang, Dave Taht; +Cc: cerowrt-devel On 03/16/2015 01:49 PM, David Lang wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: >>> >>> 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. >>> So far >>>> that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an >>>> alternative. >>>> >>> >>> If you are using a x86 processor, how much cpu does this take? >> >> >> diddly. > > this isn't sold as an AP, it's a bit pricy, but not insanely expensive > ($200-250 depending on options) > > 1GHz dual core AMD cpu, 4G 1066RAM 2 mini PCIe 3xGid-E I'm currently running the following as the Gateway/DNS/DHCP for the mid level startup (40 people) I work for. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856205007 I added 4gigs of ram and the cheapest SSD I could find. It does inbound/outbound shaping on our 100/15Mbit link and when I slam the link with netperf-wrapper top tells me the cpu is about 30% used. I don't have any log files but when I tested this box in-line on a GigE network I seem to remember it being able to do far above 100Mbit but I don't remember how much more. It's running a custom build of BB. Custom because the dual GigE network chipset is not recognised by by openwrt BB and I had make a small patch to fix that but every thing else is stock BB. QOS is qos-scripts scripts and not a version of sqm-scripts. When I got it all going I didn't full recognize that all the sqm stuff was not in qos-scripts. It works and currently meets our needs so I've not felt much need to mess with it. It has a PCI-E x1 slot so you could add a wireless adapter. Sadly its out of stock now but there are probably plenty more options if we started looking for them. -- Richard A. Smith ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have 2015-03-19 16:01 ` Richard Smith @ 2015-03-19 19:32 ` Aaron Wood 2015-03-19 20:15 ` David Lang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Aaron Wood @ 2015-03-19 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Smith; +Cc: cerowrt-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1076 bytes --] On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Richard Smith <smithbone@gmail.com> wrote: > On 03/16/2015 01:49 PM, David Lang wrote: > >> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: >>>> >>>> 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. >>>> So far >>>> >>>>> that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an >>>>> alternative. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> If you are using a x86 processor, how much cpu does this take? >>>> >>> >>> >>> diddly. >>> >> >> this isn't sold as an AP, it's a bit pricy, but not insanely expensive >> ($200-250 depending on options) >> >> 1GHz dual core AMD cpu, 4G 1066RAM 2 mini PCIe 3xGid-E >> > Has anyone rrul'd a WRT1900AC running ToT firmware? It sounds like it's pretty beastly at 2x 1.2GHz ARM. If it has the cache bandwidth (one of the suspected culprits for the low bandwidth capabilities of the various MIPS chipsets), it certainly has the compute power... It's $250 at BestBuy, $212 on Amazon. -Aaron [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2119 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have 2015-03-19 19:32 ` Aaron Wood @ 2015-03-19 20:15 ` David Lang 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: David Lang @ 2015-03-19 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Aaron Wood; +Cc: cerowrt-devel On Thu, 19 Mar 2015, Aaron Wood wrote: > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the 3 focus problems we have > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Richard Smith <smithbone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 03/16/2015 01:49 PM, David Lang wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 1) We need a new box that can do inbound shaping at up to 300mbit. >>>>> So far >>>>> >>>>>> that box has not appeared. We have not explored policing as an >>>>>> alternative. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If you are using a x86 processor, how much cpu does this take? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> diddly. >>>> >>> >>> this isn't sold as an AP, it's a bit pricy, but not insanely expensive >>> ($200-250 depending on options) >>> >>> 1GHz dual core AMD cpu, 4G 1066RAM 2 mini PCIe 3xGid-E >>> >> > Has anyone rrul'd a WRT1900AC running ToT firmware? It sounds like it's > pretty beastly at 2x 1.2GHz ARM. If it has the cache bandwidth (one of the > suspected culprits for the low bandwidth capabilities of the various MIPS > chipsets), it certainly has the compute power... > > It's $250 at BestBuy, $212 on Amazon. the WRT1200ac is also due out soon, 2x2 instead of 3x3 but otherwise slightly better specs 1900 2x1.2GHz ARM, 256M ram, 128M flash list $250 1200 2x1,3GHz ARM, 512M ram, 128M flash list $180 watching the OpenWRT mailing list, it also looks like the 1200 will have better support than the 1900 did (I'm not sure if the 1900 now has full support or not) David Lang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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