From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C8F53B2FB for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id p188so154376161oih.2 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 18:22:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aEnWK10gjLQw2hyNuEo9pS02jedU9qDhjK17vxYwJQk=; b=BPWNwY6VFrbtJNfyahBrZVOVqDapAR3yQKnN7pYNP2YewseuU7zd97SmGsrEb5ftgI py+iA7P/7db1bjwTFt59h8igi+K6jsQ8ySmu3dLlH32A0s/nc/o2qOlMeIUyaqhroCD+ vnLOo+h31LW/tuDcjRmyXP2aqKRTIe7dzZs9FrBQyEssKC5WNw6gyPMLW8hSisMFSWrN uIPRs33SQcSp3wcVkio9eYlKkEEEVlZE98r5PkIeB4ODLcSbf6SbWNnYX176pldrFiyZ Y0Ye6RfFLFunqp9JoX1c5ZWY5+qy3YSrLX8zIB+i2OOhhwsDeSm2Y9cdMaEDFQu0iOG+ sPoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aEnWK10gjLQw2hyNuEo9pS02jedU9qDhjK17vxYwJQk=; b=LcpJrE0/LWcuplsXWx3PQKpa1NeNHtNd3Na3vbs1t8wH3xZol/esA1G0j1XqnjqsjV XueRFTl72HfvPjufIZVzNTDDUTnokbpAhRs5eRlti6D4C3cVRwdW3Q+AbMk/CMYZ+xM3 EDLvKB/i/nknBnZfYYlP9xp7Z8SeFnfXfd4EdfRo4k4gn0lgQVfCq5+vHoFIFBR7tuFg 4eREHrLhH/aDeTmDFiQ+bG6PDhNCngiOsFz4JFTKDQQgBOBDpIP3ZP5vDTHM/96dfuvF aEK6kHTbxwF4FnmackyCmz8q9TVnqSQDYTR/QOJP5n9HZOYdk24CGWE0emfE94E+iO/e n7Pw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJRljRAs+ufszc2XXsTliSi9lO9b3tkSTAu9aBQ/Bn+ypDn9OqLfdYd3W4eSw28A1Z538p2DT2SO1N0dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.157.5.106 with SMTP id 97mr5201807otw.127.1460164949399; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.79.215 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:22:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bufferbloat-fcc-discuss , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] the real future of the internet starts with fixing todays internet X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 01:22:31 -0000 I will put in a comment to the eu tomorrow. Michiel's rhetoric hit me where I live. We gotta fix what we got. from: https://nlnet.nl/people/leenaars/ec/ "... the European Commission is actually asking what it should do for the future of the internet in a public consultation. That question doesn't really get the attention it deserves on the EC website, but there is quite serious money with the label "Next Generation Internet" attached to it. At least 750 million euro, waiting to be put to good use. Typically the EC expect a consultation like this to yield maybe 50-100 responses, mostly from its usual suspects. The wording of the questions - like what "disruptive business models" there are, or if there are "trends" we can "capitalize" on - may give you the wrong impression. But they are in listening mode, and that means this is our rare chance to speak out and let them know what the internet community thinks needs to happen with this money. If you do the math, you'll see that every one providing input more or less justifies how an average 10 million euros will be spent. You see, why your input really matters? What if we could put solving the issues of ossification and the Snowden revelations, safe internet as the number one priority? We desperately need a reliable and open internet that scales well, has strong security and privacy guarantees and is worthy of our trust. Without our clear signal, the money will probably seep through the cracks - two decades and billions of Euro's of failed funding have shown that the regular way of working with huge consortia and projects working on fashionable 'innovations' has brought nothing that stuck. The real future of the internet starts with fixing todays internet." I return now to watching the spacex landing for the 10th time. Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi