From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5722821F1B5 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id p61so3390267wes.41 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cRbHpT4Xfvnx3oE64eR0Dt772WaJoByQGAsOZPoOnQE=; b=V6kSWVLIG53QRUZtojRFDdOWd7WFBD72pfqEdSdRH/lLXkIizklnInZKdyMnxa0ML6 6Wk4cUP50LiFfvzka6x3gT36TNKEdLJVeWpQHYkPOJSuWGeg1ym1in/2+JwgWiWgag6y u3GrXeljOLSkfR93xk0Kc//0USb9cCka+v39cFoO54moxJPfmU1Ho8f5R638YuF6TUte u9aJb9Ls7SDb6R481KhDqXKo3yW67VQp57lASF+oE1Mt4QE/sE02jwj2lDKZJpuG+AgG Vy9bW9t1RZnx/E9xfVqvqlxISXOls5e7ycHWcDUDUdlcsPgxsmqHg+hMAD8BlM8uEdPX agtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.175.70 with SMTP id by6mr4551445wjc.3.1396123013059; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.8.1 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Martin Bailey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: wndr3800 replacement X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:56:55 -0000 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Martin Bailey wrote: > The recently released v2 of the TP-Link Archer C7 router would be a > pretty good low-cost replacement. It's fully open-source Atheros/Qualcomm= , Um, no, the ath10k depends on a binary blob. Which has been really irksome. I do hope they open-source the firmware so we can make more progress on incorporating better algorithms into wifi. > includes a fairly high performance 720MHz SOC with 128MB RAM, 16MB > flash and 6 dual-band antennas (AC1750) with very good range. It can > be found for $99 right now. The first hardware revision isn't > supported by the ath10k driver in OpenWRT so make sure to only > consider v2. It's not clear how to ensure you are buying a v2 through sites like amazon. If you can find a good source for it let me know... > > http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr7500 > https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_Archer_C7_v2.x > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16833704177 > >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2014, Aaron Wood wrote: >> >>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:50:27 +0100 >>> From: Aaron Wood >>> To: David Lang >>> Cc: Dave Taht , >>> "cerowrt-devel at lists.bufferbloat.net" >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: wndr3800 replacement >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:11 PM, David Lang wrote: >>> >>>> If the openwrt folks could figure out how they are going to deal with >>>> NAND >>>> flash, it would be nice to be able to use one of the many routers that= is >>>> shipping with more flash (128M in the newer netgear routers would be >>>> nice) >>>> >>>> if I were to get my hands on one, what sort of testing would you want = to >>>> do to it to tell if it looks like it would hold up? >>> >>> >>> I have experience running mtd on NAND, using jffs2. It seems to be >>> holding >>> up well. Better than NOR did, honestly. Although in general, I wish t= hey >>> would shift to eMMC. But it's driven by two factors: >>> >>> 1) part cost >>> 2) chipset support from the router SoC vendors >>> >>> Given some of the wishes that I see on here, I think for development, >>> people would be happier with a platform that wasn't based on a router S= oC >>> (like the wndr is), but instead was based on an embedded application >>> processor with PCIe for the radios, and an external switch fabric. >> >> I think we have two competing desires. >> >> one is to have a nice powerful device for those people who have fast >> connections >> and for us to experiment with. >> >> the second is to have a 'home' device. >> >> using a 3800 or similarly priced ($100-$150 USD) device that's readily >> available >> is very good for the second category, the question is if we can find one >> that's >> powerful enough for the first. >> >> David Lang >> >>> But for >>> thermal purposes alone, I've been seeing more and more external switch >>> fabrics. The heat of a 5-port gigabit switch IC is pretty substantial >>> (from my teardowns). >>> >>> One item I think will be a boon, especially with DNSSEC, is super-cap o= r >>> battery-backed rtc, but that's asking for a unicorn, I think. Or... a >>> Gateworks Ventana GW5310 loaded with a couple standard (industrial-grad= e) >>> PCIe radios, loaded into a custom case. My guess is that it's a pretty >>> expensive route, though. I would be surprised if a completely assemble= d >>> unit would be <$300. At which point it starts to look better to just r= un >>> a >>> separate router and AP (using standard wndr-type platforms as the APs a= nd >>> a >>> higher-end board or PC as the gateway). >>> >>> -Aaron >>> > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html