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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world, still?
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:50:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6TetZ9JSfw0ZFDMm5nxixV4Y6pycCqMKYa2uNseegSzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

back in 2011, 2012 jim and I and others looked hard at the kernels and
software being sold then to end-users.

We concluded that the embedded router world was running 5-7 years
behind linux mainline, sometimes as much as 10, and that the embedded
linux world had been decimated by the great recession causing the
collapse of companies like montavista.

I recently took apart verizon FIOS's current firmware for one of their
more popular routers. It's still running 2.6.21, which shipped in
june, 2007. Overgeneralizing from this one data point, I am wondering
if the trendline for new routing products tracking current software
has got worse or better? I have generally assumed that "new wifi
features" was a fundamental driver for semi-newer kernel versions in
new products, and not much else. Edgerouters are still 3.10. I know of
more than a few pre-bufferbloat-era things going back even further
than that, but most hackerboards I've played with also don't go back
very far. Odroid C2 was still 3.10 last I looked.

There are still a few companies alive in this space (openrg being one
that I know nothing about), but...

-- 

Dave Täht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

             reply	other threads:[~2018-07-25 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-25 18:50 Dave Taht [this message]
2018-07-25 19:14 ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-07-25 19:49   ` dpreed
2018-07-25 20:00     ` Dave Taht
2018-07-25 20:17 ` Jim Gettys
2018-07-26  8:53 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-07-26 14:13   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-26 16:48     ` dpreed
2018-07-26 20:15       ` Dave Taht
2018-07-26 20:34         ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2018-07-27  9:31       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-07-26 13:13 [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world,still? dpreed
2018-07-26 13:56 ` [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world, still? Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-07-26 16:45 ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-07-27 12:18 dpreed

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