From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x230.google.com (mail-qt0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 962B23B29E for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x230.google.com with SMTP id c10so76732000qtd.1 for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/ePxw2Kh9Nh8nggfqiSP4iN+mf79bAqu2PqzlAVoGI=; b=lu2LYpEgnrqWfdXLohns51/80fzOiX/A69LGyqtuGN1LERB9QjJD7Tb1SuJN0eb6aZ vuL609C0NdPg3bpoM/owfbn4K0gmo3yleMhbx7n8G+PkyuZKX3a+K1YKX3XFBq01G00S 7NE5ncsj/3aSs90HLPIlqYcN4G37Pl8nljGgQn/uP1MI3Nzax7bMGh1gZ+a3UnobIeBZ zSEvfPnJZVPHTGwvkak56SDrNPw489Se/7dsvq7Hq1P1EVz/sw0nJiwgAET1I/066KfY WMrpI7/4L5HCEtXyn9k8B2VfQelISqTH7VRiQ+LYGE0UOfZNAr7SX12eydXbDKOr+kg7 9Cvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/ePxw2Kh9Nh8nggfqiSP4iN+mf79bAqu2PqzlAVoGI=; b=CDQCts/PnP+HjSWeB0NJHWhRqJoKJ8UwGShTTgGQ7fbK2gqz9AgFWW+WvDzOCTUc/e V7t+T9Po1YKhvJWqlc3MSE/rRucND+oCsNBX90gHoZaYbzeighwD9uffhY+HIT0cYTaC CFLIrEwjf9BVWgj6VmHCOG/2nBoXJG4bcwOiS87lDdg2L6YmO3E4pH12REhJ2XuqkrGp PAi10TWbDid50rGH3Nj8eMLXSrpRuTdBvMnzpEWr1DDWbe4El10Sh8SN/hjsxNy077tT Bby+/c1ZS1lmmRm39PmXGY+cH13nx1C0riXRoBnDn2VG8IqaWz+oaY7+co4qq6clWvt0 5xqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBvaAaBM43kgAuSwtYdxPa6wkx009LUGSAPZNasU4TkKXTsKcJG PhM1EdZijaKhG8fSpdakm0yQbDk98g== X-Received: by 10.237.45.103 with SMTP id h94mr51991712qtd.204.1497016968018; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:02:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.131.34 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2d60e776-2a4f-de66-0d2f-a36568562f96@gmail.com> <1496685154.544113991@apps.rackspace.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:02:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: Christopher Robin Cc: "dpreed@reed.com" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] solar wifi ap designs? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 14:02:48 -0000 My use case used to be covering hundreds of km in the Nicaraguan jungle. The prototype for that covers a mere 110 acres in the los gatos hills, trying to get stuff deep into ravines and so on. I have at least a dozen areas where a wifi repeater would be useful, but I tend to meshy route things, so rather than repeaters, I have routers. the ubnt radios I presently use tolerate 6-24v, and eat less than 5w - so some of the things I've been watching rathole here don't apply. What I'd hoped for was an "all-in-one unit" much like the wifi camera that kicked off the thread. I'm NOT going to put a wndr3800 in a tree, and while offering usb recharging might be a good thing to a campsite, not planning on it at the moment. So I'm back to building a custom enclosure for edison batteries, a solar panel hopefully lacking in charge controller, and a nanostation m5 or rocket m5 as the gear. >I'm trying to imagine a use case where decade long, maintenance free, tree= mounting would be the preferred solution. The only thing I can think of is= a cheap active repeater in an area with infrequent users. Push as much >lo= gic/processing back to a unit where power is cheap.