From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x532.google.com (mail-ed1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13A523CB38; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 15:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ed1-x532.google.com with SMTP id b13so37160944edn.0; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 12:38:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oxRB9salisOV+/Ug6XIo6ZuO79d22lXfJ9xCx43fVHE=; b=cPLadd+nmNRxlImffH/dLQAggXZGkidT6yjzniWN1NSmBewXn+RdVrqrL865gAaMVQ dJHMvbWXr0BQTcTg96gjAjhysXkhwZxfmK7FkkrhQpbVxy7f6r+Qbkki0qxFYeQWYXZk 1DjlZinXyw5mrot4YCt7WSpz/sCFh3Uj1jFXOtWaoa6Ybt30GTgOq5VoagyDJPF109lV RF/HbfDnRBQaadOewmeSIwzRZpvOvWXIrKpp/pMsiP6qG7TUfOkyO4SMJLCiEf+93cvG YOuDEKPIkshONS018jmuvum0mv6si4UYp08ioRpMv+FJqyHOeQE9x1FJ3QbcXsORiU/p q5vQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oxRB9salisOV+/Ug6XIo6ZuO79d22lXfJ9xCx43fVHE=; b=aRnLvd33pRIY7/XvYWbSe5XFGbY0MMIrQt7B00X+GfTH41Jzf3pQ4YGqq5L7384vR1 WPvQJjk/gEvrGKXupXfVlw5NQjjBcvYwsOQSvw/tFHB4A/akFzG8p+4fADt/vNFnIY68 hdX2Xmull1JYy0GfuaDj6AEuUnnfPzOJPTm6feUSAcAkmvnxgnvIpuchyeIPtHXgtRL6 lKmpWn5Xa0Z45Zr4n19yz+z3EQaMDTtC9SBN9CyFECt4JAW8Yhn2J/RPOs0ab42wsYVu WdnYx/36N//Wd1dN0EAGp6vmRI5zmfXPt/EPSqpgAP9eXs60WiusVHl3R/QAmEQFY4Zi zQsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532I+ovFQKg6k2RK1uHkekfHV65bIHsIrMp5WGHKmPo2HlHKcx4D t6hdVYbJTxsDQP6rlBSse1ZijDQLHTPTZyaqulVTyqv1MO8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxhew8s5yJqSxEAonV10Cyi3KWlrnYNNrPzwZ8kbvHKDnlan9RgqAkWA13GoJdopUnJbA7/Li0C1qZuiCbhXjw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1601:: with SMTP id f1mr26867244edv.165.1643747900398; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 12:38:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6EB1B7F0-A906-4254-8DD7-8EAE47DB7490@cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:38:07 -0800 Message-ID: To: "Livingood, Jason" Cc: bloat , cerowrt-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] ntia broadband RFC X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 20:38:22 -0000 I still have not got on this, and the filing deadline is feb 4th. If anyone wants to weigh in... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FjRo9MNnVOLh733SNPNyqaR1IFee7Q5qbMrmW1P= lPr8/edit?usp=3Dsharing possibly leveraging some of this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T21on7g1MqQZoK91epUdxLYFGdtyLRgBat0VXoC= 9e3I/edit Go for it! I am low on words this month. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 11:50 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > I intend to use the illustrative cartoon here at some point, if I get on = this. > > https://blog.discourse.org/2022/01/discourse-gives-back-2021 > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:11 AM Livingood, Jason > wrote: > > > > In my personal opinion, these agencies are usually quite happy to have = comments from technical experts. If any of you do make comments, making the= m concise and not too complex will tend to ensure they are widely read and = internalized. ;-) > > > > In the details, I could certainly see folks in this community being abl= e to credibly comment on question 13 [1] given its mention of latency and q= uality. > > > > Jason > > > > [1] "What guidance or requirements, if any, should NTIA consider with r= espect to network > > reliability and availability, cybersecurity, resiliency, latency, or ot= her service quality features and > > metrics? What criteria should NTIA establish to assess grant recipients= =E2=80=99 plans to ensure that service providers maintain and/or exceed thr= esholds for reliability, quality of service, sustainability, upgradability = and other required service characteristics?" > > > > =EF=BB=BFOn 1/18/22, 16:19, "Bloat on behalf of Dave Taht" wrote: > > > > This is the first time in years that I felt that maybe something we > > said could get through to an agency of the US government. The deadl= ine > > for filing is feb 4th, > > and it would be nice if some of the billions on the table got spent= on > > better routers, software, and networks. > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ntia.gov/files/ntia/publication= s/fr-iija-broadband-rfc.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhH= kmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlLAE9NwQ$ > > > > In their RFC there are 36 questions, some of which are pretty good. > > > > I've been participating a bit in this forum: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broad= band-grant-events/scott-woods-ama__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cX= lisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlnwITAjA$ > > among other things I dragged out last week was the "upgrade in plac= e" > > idea. There's 3 weeks or so to come up with > > something worth filing, but as usual these days I'm always looking = for > > collaborators? > > > > > > > > -- > > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3D= https*3A*2F*2Fwww.icei.org__;JSUl!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlis= fhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUnbOe7hAA$ > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/= bloat__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOn= zG6nZnLUnPllTvyw$ > > > > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC