From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DC6721F222 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbgg8 with SMTP id gg8so113391148obb.1 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9H9Ta49x9+Zm2oWIw7W8rjyIH2RZBtF5dXhWZkgW2h0=; b=VNO+ZUkGdPq7acsIAhU832KtVdpCksNZd/nUQbuX8Z8KgkpHlJi49OmofynvlbaISp /5FL/8WlJccF6MdOjkv7KZmTRFx2Tv4WuUVZenj0fJEVt6b150pCu8IFx9898YuaseIo 26n0qfmkq3q2Xs0w8/YPc3ZY/vDkDihdo5eIdsecamcbXz3eqbNykhqvHM9wIrLxRbbx 46CeHrmhAITRxoQJV3wwq7D59ZVaupk1IzcfKA7WJlUr6d3SKTO8DmLH2C44c6OQG/EV yrE9GmqFRm4thROz2UKTSTMvmMPWcBrmtmylqTo0i1S7Zkqeq38eDlfYznYSJ8wguvn9 xcdg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.62.70 with SMTP id l67mr70052050oia.59.1427076930225; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.51.66 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <08BAF198-87C5-42B8-8899-53F34E47156E@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:15:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Jonathan Morton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7 v2, policing, hostapd, test openwrt build X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:15:59 -0000 On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Jonathan Morton wr= ote: > >> On 23 Mar, 2015, at 03:45, David Lang wrote: >> >> are we running into performance issues with fq_codel? I thought all the = problems were with HTB or ingress shaping. > > Cake is, in part, a response to the HTB problem; it is a few percent more= efficient so far than an equivalent HTB+fq_codel combination. It will hav= e a few other novel features, too. > > Bobbie is a response to the ingress-shaping problem. A policer (with no = queue) can be run without involving an IFB device, which we believe has a l= arge overhead. yep. 3rd option is to go make better hardware. Not getting very far on this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onetswitch/onetswitch-open-source-hard= ware-for-networking going to have to try harder. Honestly had hoped that broadcom, qca, cisco, or somebody making chips would have got it right by now. > - Jonathan Morton > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb