From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 184CC3ED41 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 06:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ob0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id iw8so141699435obc.1 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 03:01:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9bQUeqJGLuG0kAqVZGOi4p/2WPt2LYzzdJRC6rlWeeQ=; b=nerRs9NYfzeKBrFDNXWd8qePBB0+VW4173HDe12SFPJ5Ibcbj8KzZJgCd/XO7Zz1e5 istfJygh/Ys2qw0jC5NEAsXoOfOUwmS+Bea63I8HhFJl7U5I9NYZbGSbqXYKJvJOK08p jUerY5LSp9y5uY/m41QsUq6HGNAYYdCEcGlvi7gpCYKqkwy95pO70RMDC8UCG4NSZ6yg ful0I3C3qRS3UXpQCm4nXtbtxl6X5p/Zw68Ba4t11NOxkt+ZjM6Lt9mkNTwg79sCoLYy Xdv8nplXsmZyCr7UqIbfUx3enqz8bs1UP1hIwAttei+rOsD7P2TxuYqQmN65iyqG4UO3 FN1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.236.3 with SMTP id uq3mr9736032obc.25.1450782083369; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 03:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.187.3 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 03:01:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:01:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Ondrej Filip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] turris omnia cracks 300k in funding X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:01:24 -0000 I see that they have added a public questions forum. I put my two most pressing questions there. https://discourse.labs.nic.cz/c/turris-omnia Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I am pretty excited to see this happen. > > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-sourc= e-router#/updates > > Maybe it will arduino-ize (or raspberry pi) the home router/cpe > market, and multiple manufacturers, vendors, and ISPS, jump on the > open gerbers(?), and architecture to turn it into a home routing > platform we as a community can be proud of. > > In particular, I have some hope for an open gpon SFP, and I do keep > hoping we'll end up with a good wifi device of some sort for it - I'm > still trying to get into some decent new 802.11ac chipsets here, I > hope they have picked one out and established a good relationship with > the manufacturer. > > I do sometimes, get bothered by the sort of "exciting" things people > add as "stretch" goals. > > I'd love someone to promise - in exchange for funding - > > A) years of free or inexpensive updates - or a plan for such > B) or an improved kernel - or a continuously improved one > C) or an extensive QA and build farm during the product build process > D) years of uptime and reliability after ship > E) email suport > > Something that to me, says "this will be a quality product". Why do > people not think about long term costs of maintaining something that > you will own for 5-15 years or more? I'd gladly pay $12/yr to *know* > my home router was being maintained properly. But maybe that's just > me.... > > I'd like to see something that doesn't treat the really difficult > parts of OS and driver development and maintenance as invisible costs. > I'd love to know this puppy was going to be well maintained, and not > abandoned. I worry that the OS is an openwrt "fork", not a branch, and > wonder what kernels will be on it, and wonder if it will be ietf > homenet compliant, etc. > > It bugs me there seems to be no mailing list or git tree or buildbot > system to access. ? > > And lastly, the fact that everybody on indigogo wants, in a variety of > colors, the "finished" product (nobody spent 1k on any of the first 10 > prototypes), rather than getting in on making it "finished", *really* > bugs me. People need to get in there (as we're doing with the 1200ac) > and make it *good*, not just lounge around waiting for someone else to > do it. > > Anyway, I just tried to order the 1k prototype box. Needed paypal. > Don't have a working paypal account. Will go fix that. > > ... I *really* don't want to have to do another cerowrt, I'd much > rather finish cake, make wifi faster on some chipset if some > manufacturer will let us, and contribute to a product we can as open > code loving, freedom loving, reliability loving, low latency loving > folk, actually love. > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! > https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi