From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x22a.google.com (mail-ob0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05D6C200664 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id uz6so5405148obc.15 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=51gbrCANhTAD7T26tAi5DYgDkhO4VobSlv83PjlfxT4=; b=YQNu6xzJIMjCU5iY0et7jlM0ZQvyOji4QSKN/7M7WAmgv2ZNBjtZHixTAfFBfi6Ese 6yxfpaH0Sd/M4QYC0AhQGwYQqpNP7+BOGVFzSbaacnnMNgbAyMhU5oUI7nB8DsNipjs+ QMbYSyb/o5ziPDN1Lk8T8fvdimrsdoMd/7hYEN0RoIboUYB9yGoCNBaf9IuwWFCvi4QF nHLCDXKy3h2k1Dwq5xzSGBL6Qzj77i3u/pw6VVAUpgsOj0dGSYLk/Iz5b2YEyYGKVcGt dplQIMmIL215PPuhf4W9q4s9M76odjio/i6KLfJZlWA/netqVnf7DfN2qkTHaZOUJXdn ZTPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.130.137 with SMTP id oe9mr14440748oeb.41.1411653990557; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.227.76 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:06:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:06:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: =?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fiber to the yurt approved X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:07:01 -0000 searching alibaba for new gear is truly an eye-opening experience... examples: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Atheros-based-router-with-sfp-port_19= 79360314.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Factory-OEM-Ralink-3052-300M-OpenWrt_= 1923358888.html I am under the impression however, that SFP+ is needed for gig uplinks. Not that 100Mbit is bad... On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Joel Wir=C4=81mu Pauling wrote: > Put as many pairs as you can fit into the conduit to leave quite a lot of > slack (2-5metres) The specific question was what form of conduit (earth burial) would be sane= ? This would be a ground burial thing where I would be comfortable with ground buriable ethernet, no conduit (it's a forest), but fiber looks more fragile. > We bury our splitters with ofdm break outs in waterproof boxes every 500m= - > 2km or so for the GPON roll out and blow the Fibre to the premise from th= e > split. Residences and yurts are spaced about every 3 meters in distinct subsection= s. > Burying splinter boxes prevents vandalism/flooding issues and > accidents. This is a campground in california. Amusingly, a few hours after we started eagerly discussing digging up the ground, it started pouring rain. I'm goin= g to put "discuss fiber deployment" into my bag of drought-ending tricks... >Con's you have to dig it up every time you want to connect > another pair into the ofdm. Fibre blower kit is expensive. I saw that a fiber blower box was 6k. There seem to be daily rentals available... > Choose your connectors on the ofdm carefully. LC style connectors are the > norm on SFP(+) optics and isn't angled. This is my personal favorite but > some dislike it. Is rarely the norm for In premise kit especially for pon= . > > Angled and unangled SC connectors are norm for PON and CPE Home kit. Angl= ed > is better for loss and used primarily on the splitter OFDM but easy to mu= nge > if you connect angled to unangled. > > You might even consider just not using a splinter or OFDM patch at all an= d > just having slack and unterminated fibers. Cheap Chinese Fujikura equival= ent > spilcers can be had for around 3000$ now. And splicing is always better t= han > patching IME. > > Have fun! You just hit me with more condensed jargon than I've had to deal with in ma= ny a month, but I think I grokked most of it. It has been really interesting to absorb an entirely new technology with your help, that of the list, and google. First up is just to trial something between two desparately needed points..= . > > -Joel > > On 25 Sep 2014 17:11, "Dave Taht" wrote: >> >> I just (surprisingly) got approval to do FTTY (fiber to the yurt) >> here. (There are some geeks on the board of directors) >> >> Questions on trenching - got all the equipment (backhoe, etc), but not >> sure >> what to lay in the ground, how deep, what regs apply, etc. >> >> It sounds like laying conduit is the best option? Sources? 1000 meter >> roll of what? what tools needed? (will look over the various >> tutorials) >> >> The other piece I'm vague on is how to split out each fiber from the >> bundle to each location. >> >> It seems sanest to standardize on single mode fiber (longest run would >> be 600m), would be nice to find an openwrt capable router instead of a >> media converter... >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVRLZI/ref=3Ds9_simh_se_p147_d0_i4?= pf_rd_m=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=3Dsearch-desktop-advertising-no-results-cen= ter-1&pf_rd_r=3D11AB4X7H6AZMPAKH0WSG&pf_rd_t=3D301&pf_rd_p=3D1912906182&pf_= rd_i=3Dfiber%20ground%20burial >> _______________________________________________ >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast