From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59FED20024C for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaen33 with SMTP id n33so11884409iae.16 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:59:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=phyIo9UQHFZ3tYeLOspXXu1a3Vkh9Qy8PhI1tW6j4XQ=; b=pCFI8d+/j72UIazP86/0cGoybVSvXD656hJdi7LIHHCdDP+7I9SxPilDfHQ7nGG/9g R3ivyvVvulLLnlljYfRGgsCXFD/12S8F0EXnBK3psEKVck7tmOWmayXK5sAdHc37+SQU BJ66nemTShtIVl/gcM5kV2RRUTgCmyCEvlhO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.140.1 with SMTP id rc1mr9693929igb.25.1323071993788; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.204.83 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:59:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: david@lang.hm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Where we're winning X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:59:55 -0000 I'm going to step back and simply listen for a while On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:27 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Dave Taht wrote: > >> All: >> >> I am incredibly open to suggestions as to how to make cerowrt less >> of a success disaster. > I'm going to step back and simply listen for a while, and solicit opinions from as many other stakeholders as possible, this week. We did a lot with this in the last 9 months, I'd like us to stretch our minds out to extend as to what can - and more importantly should - be done - with this sub-project of bufferbloat.net's, over the next year. I value your input below very much and really want to conduct a brainstorming session here, so I'm not going to venture an opinion for a while. I MIGHT stir the pot a little bit here and there.... ;) > I think one key thing to do is to step back and think about what the > definition of 'stable' vs 'rc' mean But, yes, I think the rc and the rc-smoketest concept is not working out. As for the rest of your thoughts, I really want input from lots of people! this week. So forgive me for not commenting further. I hope more people jump in. --=20 Dave T=E4ht SKYPE: davetaht US Tel: 1-239-829-5608 FR Tel: 0638645374 http://www.bufferbloat.net