From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x235.google.com (mail-ob0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4C6A21F418 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 04:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by obbnk6 with SMTP id nk6so108326604obb.2 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 04:02:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nZZEII0FTUOK3TMQGNC7/2t2EPhzc6DV1df4Gr4P3Lg=; b=FXnpBmKrVEXpaDhiAX1siP22Dz1nJfZSfjI60PcrQbAW59QVe8o4TOjA9dd1vOlAnX q0LzHa1g7lW639Nqjo5Xz8FdJzo/wQy2DoGb5Yh7RxHHoG9IYFSzjHwh4tLGRVbiwT5K WuZF3KbLOQ6t+n0Vman851eyUdr15oO9Zk/RXycnQkyyVDvU/CnyQUOBqfRrCmcgilYW fauFElyBCIg5jsmLliH+kOSbi2amztQH84FrYdnJljddaPTO6FEe0t44I4Oqx3etlf7H +PoaJhPGSz9cxmGg9xjGMZA80ey1RVbgkUT/ESMwa0cBjbZJrVQbNRAB+kwpyUsebwxP A+Yg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.39.200 with SMTP id r8mr26273969oek.81.1448798536616; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 04:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.187.3 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 04:02:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 13:02:16 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Ondrej Filip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] turris omnia cracks 300k in funding X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:02:40 -0000 I am pretty excited to see this happen. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-= router#/updates Maybe it will arduino-ize (or raspberry pi) the home router/cpe market, and multiple manufacturers, vendors, and ISPS, jump on the open gerbers(?), and architecture to turn it into a home routing platform we as a community can be proud of. In particular, I have some hope for an open gpon SFP, and I do keep hoping we'll end up with a good wifi device of some sort for it - I'm still trying to get into some decent new 802.11ac chipsets here, I hope they have picked one out and established a good relationship with the manufacturer. I do sometimes, get bothered by the sort of "exciting" things people add as "stretch" goals. I'd love someone to promise - in exchange for funding - A) years of free or inexpensive updates - or a plan for such B) or an improved kernel - or a continuously improved one C) or an extensive QA and build farm during the product build process D) years of uptime and reliability after ship E) email suport Something that to me, says "this will be a quality product". Why do people not think about long term costs of maintaining something that you will own for 5-15 years or more? I'd gladly pay $12/yr to *know* my home router was being maintained properly. But maybe that's just me.... I'd like to see something that doesn't treat the really difficult parts of OS and driver development and maintenance as invisible costs. I'd love to know this puppy was going to be well maintained, and not abandoned. I worry that the OS is an openwrt "fork", not a branch, and wonder what kernels will be on it, and wonder if it will be ietf homenet compliant, etc. It bugs me there seems to be no mailing list or git tree or buildbot system to access. ? And lastly, the fact that everybody on indigogo wants, in a variety of colors, the "finished" product (nobody spent 1k on any of the first 10 prototypes), rather than getting in on making it "finished", *really* bugs me. People need to get in there (as we're doing with the 1200ac) and make it *good*, not just lounge around waiting for someone else to do it. Anyway, I just tried to order the 1k prototype box. Needed paypal. Don't have a working paypal account. Will go fix that. ... I *really* don't want to have to do another cerowrt, I'd much rather finish cake, make wifi faster on some chipset if some manufacturer will let us, and contribute to a product we can as open code loving, freedom loving, reliability loving, low latency loving folk, actually love. Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi