From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1E163CB36 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 02:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id p48so30450635qtk.2 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:25:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kzGMVHm9rLyj/MCbsHveCsG4uTJSwsYugC64H81vnaw=; b=Ilc7LIkj7Adzsb+6UODGDA3qH38io9SIO+iUsnYw6XkmoYHclZVc7W1UNz+bhhdhga ec29zHP1GFv1+TlAUeEvhu5SW+HCms8GGdch9HZEAJMLhL75Mt3Wi3em+t/0jKzgz3FV MI4q6z85j1dVZ9pQfqV5VkJxAIOXNf7gWLgP8mHdUs5tRmWV/eP/7RJZiXACZKiflQ68 XunKF6fPaR97qzKK4p9aTvRNA1qTsgaIDlFUmimuclAJ0LlML/6vCyUvF1NpRc+uuDsn 4ZU7YXWqAJyjrcWfRJrk9Bw24LeEylaDGsDnn6RGSpGc0r2u7yTGY38/8o74/b+laSqZ CnPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kzGMVHm9rLyj/MCbsHveCsG4uTJSwsYugC64H81vnaw=; b=p1I0sk8I52c5UVpaOSbehHVMt9mqfwjqiuQoBY+nwdghItUtb37kuph0W6TvP12Tkt qCIHDl8XC+/AGePDGle+fA4Hppsb3/qX0ON/OFggMm1GZ0oQ+R7FSyWsrqor0uAMQ+lM B+THfXxI9Ksk4BhuTfpq4tEYXISTgNTJmFvm78PTe3aIeS5U7acZol8S7Bt9AMsLmFIE NDDN6aJjW5lONXlESumEdSy/FnQuiWmgxBmg/PYYFLn8qgHJV055Hl51HpW1qiWQu/6z +RRaHe4bIXJ3WjKRJvFipi8d0JlQxYI0saoRwKcnHFDuNetWSH3UFVJtld+wi0u8OoHS 5aBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuZLQTzPUn2oiBCZvQUHEjlZ13fGtBvLcPYBb14zJ6ZBsL8eKLtR jAg+h7YJodlqqVE6/XQsPkZKGrypl+uyJkK0hSe7eZSa X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IZW1oq9eid33sZs+dOdk8BFtxMXcMk6UC46o8XpE2aHAgEOMBhp6C5fw39smwj3oe+a6/3hJ0wS1Sb9c1SgiQw= X-Received: by 2002:aed:234a:: with SMTP id i10mr562818qtc.355.1550733955409; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:25:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:25:54 -0800 Message-ID: To: Mikael Abrahamsson Cc: cerowrt-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cheap BGP capable routers? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:25:56 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:55 PM Mikael Abrahamsson wrot= e: > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2019, Dave Taht wrote: > > > I'm casting about for some old, cheap, cisco/juniper/etc *actual > > hardware* routers, with bgp capability, for some interop testing in > > light of my upcoming talk at netdevconf. They need not be fast, need > > not have more than 2 ports, it would help for the software to be > > maintained and current. > > > > I hit ebay and an asr-1000 still goes for 6k. Anything "out there" > > that is significantly cheaper than that? > > Buy a Cisco 7206 VXR with NPE-G1. They cost around 100-200USD for a > complete unit. They even do fair-queue and run much of the original code > from the 90ties (I doubt it's been touched much). wow. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-7206VXR-Router-W-NPE-G1-Dual-AC-3-x-Gigabit-= GbE-Ports-7206-VXR/303045454855?epid=3D1503935635&hash=3Ditem468eeaac07:g:x= DsAAOSw~OdVcLaO An edgerouter X does all the same thing for $40, but I could use another spaceheater. :) thx! As best as I can tell there are three main variants of cisco IOS - A qnx version (is that this box?), and two different linux based ones, IOS-XE which doesn't work with 240.0.0.0/4, and IOS-XR, which does. #show version Sun Feb 17 21:08:19.783 UTC Cisco IOS XR Software, Version 6.5.2.28I show ip int br Interface IP-Address Status Protocol Vrf-Name ... elided... GigabitEthernet0/0/0/7 241.0.0.1 Up Up default GigabitEthernet0/0/0/9 255.255.255.254 Up Up default XR at least, in a vm. Can I trust the vm to be correct? Or should I go looking for actual hw? What sort of penetration do each of these types have? > If you need full Internet BGP tables then it needs to have 1GB of RAM. Nope, just need to see what errors get thrown off with a half dozen obscure routes. > > I have close to 20 year experience with these kinds of boxes, so I can > help you before you buy. thx again! are you (or anyone here?) coming to netdevconf? > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740