From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89ADC200629 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv3 with SMTP id zv3so1279100bkb.16 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:04:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fW85f1nitl6Yy7ODjdO50TVVP4DQrGIcpCosbDKQvEM=; b=i04cQUrm2fMq4XSUPkK+y4ZC42V59Z9k+0qHnjxcwd6E8yS+h2VC+nd7ZAnkl7cVVM XQWa0JVxzvEuDTkMYz8FMxUwNpGhbYs7PMJ/78VvoFl11EHSkliKSC7nDKx2gLB1ixNv 7CL6w1E8+5SMjUt/Dott73mkMYihGKbes1GgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.133.133 with SMTP id hy5mr12471314bkc.94.1328076243316; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.67.76 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:04:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <24CB9DCF-5C60-491E-9007-ACDC5833915C@intermapper.com> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 07:04:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Richard Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Figure of Merit... X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:04:06 -0000 we had a long discussion of this on the bloat list about 6 months back. We are a long way from zero bloat as yet... lowbloat. Now with 10x less blo= at? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Richard Brown wrote: > We've been talking about a way to indicate that a router has incorporated= the bufferbloat suppression. How about ZeroBloat (tm)? > > It's not quite a unit of measure (imagine the husband and wife in Best Bu= y... "How many ZeroBloat's does that one have, honey?" :-), but it'd be an = obvious acknowledgement that the software inside was designed with some tho= ught toward solving the problem. > > Perhaps there's a "1.0" spec that says use qdisc X, Y, and/or Z, and if r= esearch develops something better, define ZeroBloat 2.0 to indicate that. > > Best, > > Rich --=20 Dave T=E4ht SKYPE: davetaht US Tel: 1-239-829-5608 FR Tel: 0638645374 http://www.bufferbloat.net