From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 816E021F1E1 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x12so157175wgg.12 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=M7oi3REsiIvEMkxSrmy9wDZvf94bJpscUBfHLLrs1Qk=; b=KVyi0nvh4/7ORgea7CUqotG65U2iVuJK/6N1lNt4T2uydEf7Q3LN3iOq9iyXhQiNG/ NhN4Ou4UgRwpfmBRTjqDMYB/1oKa4YZDP8oHRATugN6Tt7mnD3PgHxC41gMT3f6tPsjz oly8GqapXvqIl+AsdhYbgGpE7c24pBNuXDfEP/DKhCe9H89qdimAJOgG3GlwQwG+5zs2 aGhuH24gmwjIVIMhn89CeMYukhQGEBXkJK9r7b8A/Dw0GQpCVOl/yulTP3E7i5Wt8ABE iYEFfA6jBWGxXTGH0OUDYZvOkf9pQv34psJoVs+qdKbIbNyqAQIzk90pxFgR+P/AETwH o6Jw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.74.134 with SMTP id t6mr335484wiv.56.1376533278551; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.48.129 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Fred Stratton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c820c16f8f304e3f321b2 Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] tc-stab versus htb on ADSL 8000/700 X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:21:21 -0000 --f46d043c820c16f8f304e3f321b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They are 802.11e markings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11e-2005 BE =3D best effort BK =3D background VO =3D Voice CS5 or VI =3D video (diffserv marking) This test originated with the wifi work and then ended up being used for tons more stuff. And the specification is mine. I was delighted when toke ended up implementing the about 1/3 the spec in 2 months flat. Unfortunately work stalled out since then. We've added a few more interesting tests, but the really hard ones (web and one way delay measurements) have been, well, hard. I've been evaluating owamp's methods for one way delays. There is also a prototype web interface lying around. The last version of the specification can be seen here, and I do hope one day we get to implementing all of it, and/or, me, revising it. I had hopes to submit it to the ippm ietf group and/or the ITU. https://github.com/dtaht/deBloat/blob/master/spec/rrule.doc?raw=3Dtrue On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Fred Stratton wrote= : > Thank you. > > It would be useful know what the different traffic classes used by the > tool are. BE =3D=3D Best Effort. > > Beyond that I suspect the only person who knows is its Danish author. > > > > On 15 Aug 2013, at 02:53, Dave Taht wrote: > > The server in germany is demo.tohojo.dk - it's tokes, don't abuse it too > much > > The server in england isn't even in dns: 176.58.107.8 > 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:7028 > > The latter can't do more than 8Mbit up. > > we had most of a deal with google mlabs to dramatically expand the > coverage (100+ servers) but it got hung up on details. > > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Fred Stratton wrot= e: > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >> >> > > > -- > Dave T=E4ht > > Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: > http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > > --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html --f46d043c820c16f8f304e3f321b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

BE =3D best effort
BK =3D= background
VO =3D Voice
CS5 or VI =3D video (diffserv marking)

<= /div>This test originated with the wifi work and then ended up being used f= or tons more stuff.

And the specification is mine. I was deli= ghted when toke ended up implementing the about 1/3 the spec in 2 months fl= at. Unfortunately work stalled out since then. We've added a few more i= nteresting tests, but the really hard ones (web and one way delay measureme= nts) have been, well, hard. I've been evaluating owamp's methods fo= r one way delays. There is also a prototype web interface lying around.

The last version of the specification can be seen here, and I do = hope one day we get to implementing all of it, and/or, me, revising it. I h= ad hopes to submit it to the ippm ietf group and/or the ITU.

https://github.com/dtaht/deBloat/blob/master/spec/rrule.doc?raw=3Dtrue=





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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Fred Stratton <= span dir=3D"ltr"><fredstratton@imap.cc> wrote:
Thank yo= u.=A0

It would be useful know what the different traffic= classes used by the tool are. BE =3D=3D Best Effort.

Beyond that I suspect the only person who knows is its = Danish author.



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On 15 Aug 2013, at 02:53, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wr= ote:

The server in germany is demo.tohojo.dk - it's tokes, don't abuse it too much
The server in england isn't even in dns: 176.58.107.8 2a01:7e00::= f03c:91ff:feae:7028

The latter can't do more than 8Mbit up.
we had most of a deal with google mlabs to dramatically expand the = coverage (100+ servers) but it got hung up on details.



On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 a= t 2:28 PM, Fred Stratton <fredstratton@imap.cc> wrote:
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