From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-x234.google.com (mail-qc0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E1F221F1C8 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id i17so9162590qcy.25 for ; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 12:10:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hUtTKDLQB/3/oA8avJ+7yjBL3ZmfdoeoFAwluR/KI1M=; b=KW5dZpkkdYddH/0qyBCT6iYkM5ooOxjFcXNIVZ+q0OQlAr+x19h0iz/KyNCbo2zPoU yQj3VNfncBQhMSnHGXWl1P94pr8/6M6pu9TOYoChdm+tFvlc0lMCzJY9kZXGzs1cKVpb BtKpDmnmZSmK5Wa9dxHQnWNwoKvsop6ihqz95nIq8rSrTmDSqU74qzJF9tBxxhrGsST1 5g/QFbgyFJ+s+7wO+QwMakgzS/WWnyMSSg6v7gMKarTRdgGvm9TKi8MAfuhplLqsNrBC 91gueeQfEurPUVdojqG697VPLNfnWaTBPey9H+OBi/f716xZcNXLRepIVSrGPeYTTN8Z VD7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.115.11 with SMTP id g11mr42112041qaq.18.1391976600493; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 12:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.27.133 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:10:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k3d45abk.fsf@toke.dk> References: <87mwi18fl5.fsf@toke.dk> <20140209122259.261147e0@giga.billmerriam.com> <874n486rxe.fsf@toke.dk> <87vbwo5c34.fsf@toke.dk> <52F7D953.8080909@imap.cc> <87k3d45abk.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:10:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Toke_H=F8iland=2DJ=F8rgensen?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] WNDR alternative for higher capacity X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:10:01 -0000 I should probably mention that at the tippity top of my list is: http://www.adapteva.com/ That (with a second ethernet port and pcie slot) has enormous potential, to move packet processing into either hardware (fat FPGA), or the totally open co-processor, and offers the potential to get some software defined radio stuff done. That plan unfortunately doesn't meet a few short-term goals... is unfunded... and will take a long time to produce results. Middle term is to get our stuff pushed up to mainline and let the market figure out what to put it on. I'd like to find a decent based box for some future work. I hate seeing a base price of 400 bucks or so on a x86 based one, though I guess to get over 10x the network performance, 4x the base cost is not too much to bear. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Toke H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen = wrote: > Fred Stratton writes: > >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shuttle-Ultra-DS47-Barebone-System/dp/B00DK06L6O >> >> Clicking on the pictures reveals a Realtek half-height wireless card. > > Yeah, as far as I can tell that says RTL8188CE on there; Google is not > very helpful on that front, though. > >> Before you spend money, perhaps I should point out that Shuttle >> hardware has a reputation for poor reliability. > > Noted, thanks. > >> The problem I ran into on the NUC's was that all the 802.11ac cards >> are presently full-length, and the msata lines had only been run to >> the full length slot rather than the half length ones. > > Well I can live without 802.11ac for the time being. However, the > Shuttle data sheet has this paragraph: > >> DS47 features two Mini PCI Expess expansion slots which can easily >> accessed by removing the appropriate bay cover. One slot supports half >> size cards and is already occupied with a WLAN card. The other slot also >> supports full size cards and can be used either for a Mini PCIe card or >> for a mSATA (Mini Serial ATA) card, which is a Solid State Drive (SSD) >> in a compact Mini PCIe card form factor. > > Which I take to mean that if you use the 2.5" bay for storage, you can > use the full-size minipcie for other purposes. > >> It bothers me to have to use a msata card at all, to do what we want >> only needs 16MB of flash, not 16GB of flash. The onboard bios flash on >> these x86 boxes is probably getting close to 16MB already... > > Well I was going to run it as a file server as well; probably not > running openwrt, even (though not sure about that just yet). > >> I don't know if the realtek ethernet chips got working BQL support >> yet. > > Seeing as I'm going to need htb anyways, I can also live with that... > > -Toke > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html