From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD1B021F1AC for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn9so5816153wib.10 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:13:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vUGjUd/sLtZwgERwGC39ax8RWtoO55FejjBr4fP7SdM=; b=DFEX6XgAaEWc2QezDBQGlpkQUhzDaDrc+SrIkeUnY6W2tRoHf+dVBOt2OtPgOeleVR 69C2jAEA8ie/Zfr+8i6QY0PJ/bVnub1WCkSvcgwLEV0freoqzA5RlyaAYPdXnWFZkwrh hb6ihZ8dVWIVhNF/Ry3+ZEWROD5JF7aujxEYQxygbltdqGr0FAepQq3LsdgRqUFfYybg VGy8EKcYl6oTeuuF53VifotIu2pXL8SwUpFJfzvJDyUej3xNhDjQB5aCHRNL1bwxmERr w3Kv7UO0qjU8onWqldu0B/iDqak40Imvze5HYcPP9tiJSeuwNPb8igMG243HjdK8DOJc AV2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.189.139 with SMTP id gi11mr893270wic.53.1395296030424; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.8.1 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:13:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <00ef01cf4370$0c5bba90$25132fb0$@com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:13:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Aristar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Frits Riep , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Verizon FIOS - How to use CeroWRT directly with interactive TV X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 06:13:53 -0000 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Aristar wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Frits Riep wrote: > >>> =B7 I have an WNDR3800 running CeroWRT 3.10.24-8 and it is dire= ctly >>> connected to the ONT (Optical Network Terminator), and no Verizon Route= r. >> >> Oh, cool. I had figured the actiontec router was a hard requirement. >> >>> =B7 To get the interactive TV (guide, multi room dvr, and video= on >>> demand) you need to bridge the ethernet LAN of the router to the TV Coa= x in >>> order to control the settop box and send the video content from the int= ernet >>> to the settop box. >>> >>> =B7 The easiest way to bridge the Ethernet network to the Coax = is to >>> use a MoCA bridge (Media Over Coax Alliance). >>> >>> =B7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance >>> >>> =B7 D-link, Actiontec, and Netgear offer these MoCA bridges and= they >>> are under $100. You can run them with the factory defaults in this mod= e >>> (lan mode). There is also a WAN mode if you want to use the COAX to th= e WAN >>> interface of the router which is useful if you only have COAX wiring in= your >>> home and you want to locate your router in a different location from th= e ONT >>> Ethernet jack. >> >> Can you point us at a specific one? > > This is particularly interesting since Verizon will start charging an > equipment rental fee for their routers. (They've already started > offering a "improved" router for $100 which probably still sucks). > Would be nice to give them the middle finger and send their crappy > router back ^^ That would be a start. Their routers aren't all that bad, when compared to cpe provided by others. I'd hope, given their vendor, that they'd start adopting some of this new stuff. In particular I keep hoping they'll do ipv6.... I note that there will still be some way to get screwed on the rental fee. I bought a bunch of CM822T modems and replaced the existing cable modems for a bunch of boxes, and tried to return the old modems - only to be told that even though telephony worked, they had no way to "enter the info into the FCC database" and that if I returned the old modems and stopped getting charged the rent they'd have to turn off the telephony. Mind boggling. Still, I'd rather have good internet than bad, and maybe they will put the extra 7 dollars a month to good use on improving their own firmware. >>> Thanks for the great work being done. I am using this for our home net= work. >>> Should I update to the latest version 3.10.32-10 or is there a new stab= le in >>> the near future? >> >> 3.10.32-9 is in the "happens to be pretty stable" catagory, rather >> than "intended to be stable". :/ >> >> We started shooting for a long-term stable build last august, I'd >> hoped to have one by december, and then by mid-feburary... >> >> We seem to be getting close! There are no priority 1 or 2 bugs left, chu= rn >> upstream is settling down as barrier breaker gets closer to a freeze, dn= smasq >> w/dnssec is nearing a release. >> >> Aside from a couple features I really wanted to have (bcp38, babeld in >> procd), and a protocol I wanted to obsolete (ahcp replaced by hncp), >> and a daemon I wanted to replace (mdns hybrid proxy in place of >> avahi). >> >> ... it is long past time to draw a line and declare it done enough. >> >> I think the biggest thing left to do is push the SQM system upstream to = openwrt >> for comment and revision. >> >> I'd like to gateway a "stable" cerowrt 3.10 on barrier breaker itself >> going into a freeze, but can live without that. > > I'm very eagerly awaiting the next 3.10 stable release as well, I'm > afraid to upgrade the 3.7.5 on my FiOS gateway for fear of stability > issues (30+ days uptime no problems). I do a lot of online gaming and > I really appreciate all the work you guys do. Well 3.10.32-9 and later are looking pretty good. > >> >> AFTER there's a stable release... >> >> There is a ton of new work to do (if I care to think about it) with >> the new hnetd (hncp) stuff, the mdnsproxy, hardening the OS further, >> getting source specific routing to work better with vpns, finding a >> higher end platform with more oomph, etc, but we have to go looking >> for grant money to do any of that. > > I'd really love to see dnscrypt-proxy included too, but I understand > there's more pressing work to be done. There is seemingly no existing dnscrypt-proxy source package available for openwrt. I'll gladly toss one into ceropackages if it can be found. --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html