From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7C6421F3A9 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id wp4so5669168obc.6 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yURRMYp37OC0KofgIdXxhJNuM7PS99Q4VziL3mXk3a0=; b=tD9iZOaQ3AIveiZ5Whk4iMVGy91eL6gTnD0U9ZsPZUz+ksyv59WW1PBkfBseKCYPUb gai8oF4w3S48UkTTybClrpAmr+olQ+I0r8Xwv6eRtgIEiYUP/7LsVHdGMAspn0Cig4T8 /QKk6zVITQmjRtTAvFfGGOdRKjesBt5AAnCGGkRGzVCJ9jviNxTymX6+NT3puquM4u42 CHNbxCouA9YC6+f3fP6xpHtJr+8KDKobDvQ0fzWx4HL5xdNSdwO1tSx38O79BMGVZoqL wFRtL4iV2CBkCS4y2L318kv18LOnPfY6x9DECA6FxEBRDQZvzWQGTZbF4POALA89kXIk aUAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.182.65 with SMTP id g62mr6517206oif.85.1416703151495; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.227.211 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6E7FBEA3-0659-4AA7-8B9B-FBED0F439FBC@gmail.com> References: <6E7FBEA3-0659-4AA7-8B9B-FBED0F439FBC@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:39:11 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Zhang Wenjie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Always in search of the next gen X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:39:41 -0000 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Zhang Wenjie wrote: > > =E5=9C=A8 2014=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C=E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=881= :49=EF=BC=8CDave Taht =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > These looked interesting: > > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/made-in-china-2-4G-5GHz_1891823798.= html > > > But it seems that it uses ar9341 which only supports 802.11b/g/n There are multiple conflicting needs at play here. the first Is to find a router that is more readily available than the wndr3800, that we can continue to experiment on in the make-wifi-fast context. At the moment the ath9k is the best candidate chip to hack on. I would like to find a dual radio device even smaller and cheaper than the one above to do that work with, but still of high build quality and overall design. Then there are needs for something faster as a home gateway with sqm. Things like the edgerouter dont compare to a low end atom here, and the only things in between in terms of cpu capability are things like the linksys ac1900 and the x4. Then there are desires for 802.11ac, which, due to the mostly unhackable firmware available at this point is pretty frustrating to try and move the industry forward with. A fourth need, dominating all these needs overall, is sustainable funding and support from those in the industry that would like to be making better routers. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks