From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40A563B25E; Thu, 12 May 2016 11:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id x19so125853147oix.2; Thu, 12 May 2016 08:43:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjecP3mRJTaC/j0P5Q/FSSSPF/WV1SdltBNoNBQjHZg=; b=G4ZVP6mxLRmf6gprBT8wuQuqyXDfmc7hLjg1MhAoT/+8DHVp6erozy8mjMV0O6AS3V 3Lukyjv8zlczyXbHEvA7TyAba8LZHYU4FqkWTFcniwgRFkd2AqrL57tHlvAlrYlmS37m QSHn+MsOFjTbzvFu03EpEh3FYvaZiZn3VoX6Nv/I7rSUhNhhire4VvdL676gbPl9Xnhs 8AFb1Rg3DQAbnttIKaz3K87C8vc7jaCDNHFPdLviXEGUcatHfpYhNHTLXp1+8tJQn+0v Moj1DIBDLz2nj6i0YEKjRTmZ7dZxk2ZpWpHxW9Z5Vk3cCJRY9/O2fmqLhQILQzJeS0sM CtFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjecP3mRJTaC/j0P5Q/FSSSPF/WV1SdltBNoNBQjHZg=; b=DjkptZOYbTnbB3LdhbNFxMTxNM827cnVDbJr0pPLHfSvHXgZx/krFIgB/y6I0o06MW rDrJeRVPYPdcnYw1Owk9vOcAB/zaz1pujWBiQQm/YDxngQ/j1Fxj8i4toc8IjQhkvfWz rvB+GxLdGRS8JIqvh70tpebFrsfdKtXditQ9gRy1QssA2K1ux9vn5aHgrgP6bFQbqRIR y5W0mbMvrWk2byoAW+TVTh9EOAKalOz5emmb/SdwAk+flbzLOupEDbgFrMlMbrUUACXk s7kQDUPMvKEonHy1+/zaShjL+ZAcqCMAwEgsDJTahqd+Fg1PBB9FgPXUUbThcsXJmO3Q h+dQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWCyw8WvLsfuVTDVXwB/wQpFWlIchVWBZ+iL0YA3YANAQytGeKWZdzVl3QWugIaIaXSfPJQ5ENu93GkKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.217.67 with SMTP id q64mr5932544oig.151.1463067823613; Thu, 12 May 2016 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.229.210 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2016 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <16409.1463003766@obiwan.sandelman.ca> References: <16409.1463003766@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 08:43:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Michael Richardson Cc: Luca Muscariello , "make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] threads, 6lowpan X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 15:43:44 -0000 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Michael Richardson wrot= e: > Dave Taht wrote: > > wrote: > >> to be fair I should say that these technologies are gonna be a lot= more > >> expensive than wifi. > > > at first. With sufficient volume any technology can succeed. > > >> There is a good reason to keep wifi simple. > > > With something like 400 dsps required in 802.11ac wave1? > > > 802.11b. Now that was simple. We'e come a long way from spark gap > > transmitters. :) > > > In other news, I am both glad and nervous to hear that more of 6low= pan > > is seeing the light of day. I have not yet found a board to try yet > > (anyone have recommendations?), and would like to see what happens > > with these transmitters around also. > > http://wpan.cakelab.org/ > > At this point most easily available that runs Linux is a Raspberry PI wit= h: > http://openlabs.co/store/Raspberry-Pi-802.15.4-radio > > More reliable and easier to work with is a beagle bone with: > http://lab11.eecs.umich.edu/projects/zigbeag/ > but, at this point lab11 isn't in a position to sell them (AFAIK). I have= one. > > If all you want to do is run 802.11 while 2.4Ghz 802.15.4 is nearby, we c= an > arrange a playdate in berlin if you like. > > If you don't need it to run Linux, then there are a number of devices, th= e > cutest are the https://pinocc.io/, which seems to have a new name... https://www.crowdsupply.com/pinoccio/mesh-sensor-network Cute. > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh netwo= rks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network archite= ct [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails= [ > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! http://blog.cerowrt.org