From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D0C821F196; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id fo14so10756152vcb.16 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:28:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Y2OqSjbmzu7brDLLIZ/oZtDDmyDotLmrGfIz3VQ2Yk=; b=m+zeVuXmZRVVJTwgWaczcKLuUGICHIbULzxiTSj1gB4RgzgpZcOcJZ9cvGIeA7qRg0 e7DtDGRl/gT5kJTmnHBdm17dwmgfu/+L6K9GKYapKw0DQuiuWwSDRs1zeTAh2FwAYhiP x9P9+D8/1ghJHrQO+MkRkZLtJFQcXfvxvq1EBDubLykD21kOktn9vDE5bUU+7eHelRP6 ZLHbH/DowbrCPc4RSoj54UBlULZKwS1u3wJjKMlsA+QNwF3EfOWJyAc9eBwWwlL5Ol9k yRlkGWc7xQ6SNf09C8bjYpFPhZQsM2wHHubpltfMzkELdAnyN0Kfc90H5WiCZFv+Hdph WB3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.154.2 with SMTP id m2mr20757124vcw.18.1353954527508; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:28:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: gettysjim@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.151.202 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:28:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9886.1353953592@obiwan.sandelman.ca> References: <20121125232034.GF24680@merlins.org> <31933.1353939756@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <9886.1353953592@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:28:47 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c-MiR5QvQZ8MMycdzhdhcIc5ysI Message-ID: From: Jim Gettys To: Michael Richardson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c81a6a7795304cf6a1a79 Cc: cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cerowrt-users] QOS settings vs speedboost and random bandwidth X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:28:49 -0000 --f46d043c81a6a7795304cf6a1a79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > >>>>> "Jim" == Jim Gettys writes: > >> I was unaware that DSL models were doing this... is this with GbE > >> ethernet level XON/XOFF? Should I assume that any DSL model with > less > >> than a GbE sync doesn't/can't have it? Any brands you'd like to > >> acknowledge? > > > Jim> We don't know that all DSL modems do this. > > sure... I figured none of them are doing this. > > Jim> Note that I'm testing a DGN3500 this week with John Crispin > Jim> (blogic) which > Jim> has an integrated Lantiq DSL chip (along with Atheros radios) > > so, this would be a home router with wifi and DSL? > Yes; it's somewhat similar to the Netgear WNDR3700v2's. Atheros radios. - Jim > > -- > ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | > firewalls [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net > architect[ > ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ > > |device driver[ > Kyoto Plus: watch the video > > > then sign the petition. > --f46d043c81a6a7795304cf6a1a79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, N= ov 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>= wrote:

>>>>> "Jim" =3D=3D Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> writes:
=A0 =A0 >> I was unaware that DSL models were doing this... is this w= ith GbE
=A0 =A0 >> ethernet level XON/XOFF? =A0 Should I assume that any DSL = model with less
=A0 =A0 >> than a GbE sync doesn't/can't have it? =A0Any bran= ds you'd like to
=A0 =A0 >> acknowledge?


=A0 =A0 Jim> We don't know that all DSL modems do this.

sure... =A0 I figured none of them are doing this.

=A0 =A0 Jim> Note that I'm testing a DGN3500 this week with John Cri= spin
=A0 =A0 Jim> (blogic) which
=A0 =A0 Jim> has an integrated Lantiq DSL chip (along with Atheros radio= s)

so, this would be a home router with wifi and DSL?
Yes; it's somewhat similar to the Netgear WNDR3700v2's.= =A0Atheros radios.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Jim<= /div>
=A0

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] =A0 =A0 =A0 He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 | =A0firewalls =A0[
] =A0 Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON =A0 =A0|net = architect[
] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca<= /a> http:/= /www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/
=A0
|device driver[
=A0 =A0Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dkzx= 1ycLXQSE
=A0<= /div>>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0then sign the petition.

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