Re: [Starlink] [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Little's Law mea culpa, but not invalidating my main point

[Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1907 bytes --]

see https://mediatrust.com/
v


On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:28 AM Steve Crocker <steve@shinkuro.com> wrote:

> Related but slightly different: Attached is a slide some of my colleagues
> put together a decade ago showing the number of DNS lookups involved in
> displaying CNN's front page.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:18 AM Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:21:56 -0700, Dave Taht said:
>> > what actually happens during a web page load,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that nobody actually understands that anymore, in any
>> more than handwaving levels.
>>
>> I have a nice Chrome extension called IPvFoo that actually tracks the IP
>> addresses contacted during the load of the displayed page. I'll let you
>> make
>> a guess as to how many unique IP addresses were contacted during a load
>> of https://www.cnn.com
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> 145, at least half of which appeared to be analytics.  And that's only the
>> hosts that were contacted by my laptop for HTTP, and doesn't count DNS, or
>> load-balancing front ends, or all the back-end boxes.  As I commented
>> over on
>> NANOG, we've gotten to a point similar to that of AT&T long distance,
>> where 60%
>> of the effort of connecting a long distance phone call was the cost of
>> accounting and billing for the call.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Starlink mailing list
>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>


-- 
Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
Vint Cerf
1435 Woodhurst Blvd
McLean, VA 22102
703-448-0965

until further notice

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3610 bytes --]