From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-x233.google.com (mail-qa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C3AE21F3B5 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k15so13450354qaq.10 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 07:38:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=T7QPBOByxZBXkPQxo9v/Hz6ncApHIhF6RdGJKGumMeo=; b=hkuJwxiG1X7DXTB0Xwqi1jSw760Rh1wLz0LHpQcTHzdGT1Y5d90C2cbVeBCwFt1kjA QkUWX9DzfTdHu6Sn2JLRyngS0WnzMG4W+7O9VYl4JgT46P1PESQSmxAMuJUOfrJYnUSe vcWkESNxWJO3YsEm3EojCWcbSamBDAsqr3pOUhHVR/tqqkPW3ugM3hsZZk3JtLdFj2dt dixdYNQqgUms/yQZCrsS54g14iFyCNV+iISpofLs5suZF31ZrukGEt+akfc4L7zfS7vE Ddgqs/6XHlGSLViswTNOsqrejA8qM2lPWA4kqHV8/tzT6LNYNV6kFqrNegqCKqOB+/4F KZDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T7QPBOByxZBXkPQxo9v/Hz6ncApHIhF6RdGJKGumMeo=; b=QpP9Ggqey4zM6sILiKb2IsNP86+LY8yTe7eEHGQ1t1ox0OBZ+zsQO1YtgQ0rl6L9RY 9Yy6OOBfSeLAYO+nmspiHy002SlvMGoP5UH5Bv7QW15w7sRjthyFGvPni+cXUo4hdfss dHQa35907RKKf8PuLEr3RYrnNWFIqFZpoeVjWB6k2fwDbZduk12MnTaR08O7vzga5hKP ln6YjCtGqH3GsAcbYc+QZ6/Px21xWsXe3J7w9sSMOjm4g+KEDD2cLZQOFmVWyuOAGbup SGKqmW+OiInWki7LBR9X5YKkUMnGt4YlrUV4s1qKNmHf7IffMq6u57BrlVZyfrF5oCz8 YGwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlNADLT4w42ngDEv5jiW2jB7Lvmd6La/ResaPfvRpMLQLU6nM7zMBTTFLRSwV/vh6wCXoPE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.81.74 with SMTP id e68mr12755033qgd.41.1425569889853; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 07:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.38.99 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:38:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 10:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Vint Cerf To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c11d12e34cf305108c5a53 Cc: "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "aqm@ietf.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some thoughts towards medals and other recognition for fundamental contributions to the internet X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 15:38:40 -0000 --001a11c11d12e34cf305108c5a53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dave, this is a great list - and much appreciated. nominations must go to the committees for awards. I suggest we compile a list of the applicable awards from IEEE, ACM, NAE, AAAS, .... and references to how to make nominations. v On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > There are plenty of people involved in the bufferbloat project who > already have got plenty of medals, awards and statuettes - Eric > Raymond, Jim Gettys, Paul Vixie, Vint Cerf, Fred Baker, etc... > > And there are now a bunch of newer people that have made enormous > contributions to making the Internet better, and it would be good to > somehow, give them some recognition for that. > > Are there some set of medal granting organisations we could submit > these peoples' names to? > > * Kathie Nichols and Van Jacobson - for making a fundamental > contribution towards understanding the causes of network latency with > codel > * Jesper Dangaard-Brauer - for solving all the thorny rateshaping > problems on PPPoe/ATM/DSL in his masters thesis (and in running code) > * Tom Herbert - for the invention of BQL > * Eric Dumazet - for the invention of fq_codel (and being the worlds > greatest active network programmer!) > * Juliusz Chroboczek - for solving nearly all the problems that > distance vector routing had, and making source specific routing > actually work > * Greg White - for driving the DOCSIS 3.1 standard > * Simon Kelly - IMHO, he deserves a knighthood and place in the > mythology along with Tim-Berners-Lee - as unlike http, dnsmasq has > been invisible, nearly as widespread, and far less problematic. He's > England's national treasure, and just spent 3 years making DNSSEC > deployable along the edge, besides. > * PI, PIE teams. > * No doubt I am not remembering someone, apologies! please feel free > to offer up some suggestions! (but what I am mostly looking for is a > (set of) place(s) to give names to!) > > Even without finding some separate medal granting org, I have longed > to create a *new* award - an "Internet Pioneers Award". > > It would feature a statuette of an engineer, chained to a rock, > marketroids eating his guts out, with a dozen arrows in his back, with > hands outstretched - holding up a shiny new piece of technology. > > First up, for that award (and I can think of plenty of others > eligible!), would be this guy: > > http://the-edge.blogspot.com/2003/06/wireless-connection.html > > ... without whom, it would have taken a lot longer for the entire home > router market to exist. > > In addition to the statue that award would include an all-expenses > paid trip to some tropical beach, somewhere, that didn't have > internet! > > I see isoc does some stuff, the process for national science awards is > not very clear... LF does some stuff... > > What else is there? > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb > --001a11c11d12e34cf305108c5a53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dave, this is a great list - and much appreciated. nominat= ions must go to the committees for awards.

I suggest we = compile a list of the applicable awards from IEEE, ACM, NAE, AAAS, .... and= references to how to make nominations.

v


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
There are plenty of people = involved in the bufferbloat project who
already have got plenty of medals, awards and statuettes - Eric
Raymond, Jim Gettys, Paul Vixie, Vint Cerf, Fred Baker, etc...

And there are now a bunch of newer people that have made enormous
contributions to making the Internet better, and it would be good to
somehow, give them some recognition for that.

Are there some set of medal granting organisations we could submit
these peoples' names to?

* Kathie Nichols and Van Jacobson - for making a fundamental
contribution towards understanding the causes of network latency with
codel
* Jesper Dangaard-Brauer - for solving all the thorny rateshaping
problems on PPPoe/ATM/DSL in his masters thesis (and in running code)
* Tom Herbert - for the invention of BQL
* Eric Dumazet - for the invention of fq_codel (and being the worlds
greatest active network programmer!)
* Juliusz Chroboczek - for solving nearly all the problems that
distance vector routing had, and making source specific routing
actually work
* Greg White - for driving the DOCSIS 3.1 standard
* Simon Kelly - IMHO, he deserves a knighthood and place in the
mythology along with Tim-Berners-Lee - as unlike http, dnsmasq has
been invisible, nearly as widespread, and far less problematic. He's England's national treasure, and just spent 3 years making DNSSEC
deployable along the edge, besides.
* PI, PIE teams.
* No doubt I am not remembering someone, apologies! please feel free
to offer up some suggestions! (but what I am mostly looking for is a
(set of) place(s) to give names to!)

Even without finding some separate medal granting org, I have longed
to create a *new* award - an "Internet Pioneers Award".

It would feature a statuette of an engineer, chained to a rock,
marketroids eating his guts out, with a dozen arrows in his back, with
hands outstretched - holding up a shiny new piece of technology.

First up, for that award (and I can think of plenty of others
eligible!), would be this guy:

http://the-edge.blogspot.com/2003/06/wireless-connection.h= tml

... without whom, it would have taken a lot longer for the entire home
router market to exist.

In addition to the statue that award would include an all-expenses
paid trip to some tropical beach, somewhere, that didn't have
internet!

I see isoc does some stuff, the process for national science awards is
not very clear... LF does some stuff...

What else is there?

--
Dave T=C3=A4ht
Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again!

https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/po= sts/TVX3o84jjmb

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