From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30D0F21F297 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id bm13so8757437qab.30 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:12:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cuxa0gw7H39YLBbhErIoXUzEBIvlJOE2PTDwaj6ZGMI=; b=iP6zSD07Sa8eJAWopZSYIsf8v2z38nyudCYPE/p6f90zjPZ2+aShC9YBMjC7hpMOPc ycKNFztwE8WrQeu2owZEygrfQfl5zVTiMKNzQuziNOEhAoGPiq4vCAitHD3SxDXJff6W ofE3F6jsySwlcsKAVfkE74oGMB1NbmB5S46r2cDHAvew1YHzUvlIi6H7b7gfM6BEBw6u jI+goCC1MbaxW8vG0dSHHd020DJAcC7Dq29sxV+Z0AVyErXe9/6u/siT/2Dx9uGppGXP 01dXlD9L2Z+Jvx57b5p3mgkMxJu9NaahyOqWFjYiUxacgAZHOuFwyBQbG2UPEK3x48o2 aN2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cuxa0gw7H39YLBbhErIoXUzEBIvlJOE2PTDwaj6ZGMI=; b=TFt0+T/3t+sUqjv+CjdqBtqYYbxbK2b6M/zm78MWjc3Em3gKYuy4/NdWSFz+A+xCKO ssWlWCDDXFMz/cN5pqrWr4ITsO162gkjoCxLIKOxqid9PaY+AEtIK3sZnk2PlhabfakN SJ2fCPU8EA9DxrjZUd5XJ31r2UsT3CiMeXcd3BdTAek/JYOQXTEUxZ5d/hVVBs8r2xOH Gx/DF3RpxhyKCH9aiCOPyqUtqDeQNMUFatk55yevwJUhjWO+5KdHAweGz7NvMNVoc5sJ djsGAWe2hnmuAl+5KRLRCXrMt1whKeTodP1FnB/j+Wxuvuiis3V63K0A4DpyOiZxOAIU jElA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkltbMKAO3udQjzwiaaemqNq6td3l4Krmml1Vxi4/Qinu2QbkuovdSOmU63nuZppZJm8uoc MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.93.49 with SMTP id c46mr55212601qge.58.1418674322678; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.144.8 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:12:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:12:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Vint Cerf To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a4d220e4f30050a46dba9 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:21:25 -0800 Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] that perpetual quest for funding X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:12:32 -0000 --001a113a4d220e4f30050a46dba9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i wonder whether we could interest DHS S&T directorate in this - I will ask Doug Maughan. v On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > I saw this go by today... > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-ybA8_Lt-gwc2RUWnN5eFFoekE/view > > also: > > > http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/12/google-launches-the-open-web-of-things-= inviting-research-proposals-to-advance-the-internet-of-things/ > > I really hate that I do not qualify as an "academic"[1], nor do the > other many open source developers advancing the state of the art - and > probably would have trouble passing that particular bar... nor do I > know what, specifically we do here that could apply to the parameters > of this grant program... > > ... but doing another cerowrt version, make-wifi-fast, tinc-fq, > fq_codel improvement, or any of the half dozen things like making > dnssec, ipv6, or source specific routing more deployable... > > that we have done as outgrowths of the bufferbloat effort... > > on the same budget (nearly none) as we have survived on for the last 4 > years, is just *not in the cards*. > > At least not for me! It's been fun working with you all, and > wonderfully productive... but I'd like to get off of top ramen. > > Are there things in the above, in the context of making home > networking safer/smarter/faster/better, that could apply? Or any > context, really? (benchmarking? simulation work) > > I did submit a proposal elsewhere for the "make fair queuing work well > with vpns" idea that I proposed on this list earlier this month, > rather than sit down and spend the time to actually do it... > > ... and I am looking over various other SBIR and NSF style grants. > > ... and trying to figure out what to do next year, that makes sense. > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > [1] I would really like to find a way to partner up formally with a uni o= r > two. > > http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks > --001a113a4d220e4f30050a46dba9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i wonder whether we could interest DHS S&T directorate= in this - I will ask Doug Maughan.

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On Mon, D= ec 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wr= ote:
I saw this go by today...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-ybA8_Lt-gwc2RUWnN5e= FFoekE/view

also:

http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/12/google-launches-the-open-= web-of-things-inviting-research-proposals-to-advance-the-internet-of-things= /

I really hate that I do not qualify as an "academic"[1], nor do t= he
other many open source developers advancing the state of the art - and
probably would have trouble passing that particular bar... nor do I
know what, specifically we do here that could apply to the parameters
of this grant program...

... but doing another cerowrt version, make-wifi-fast, tinc-fq,
fq_codel improvement, or any of the half dozen things like making
dnssec, ipv6, or source specific routing more deployable...

that we have done as outgrowths of the bufferbloat effort...

on the same budget (nearly none) as we have survived on for the last 4
years, is just *not in the cards*.

At least not for me! It's been fun working with you all, and
wonderfully productive... but I'd like to get off of top ramen.

Are there things in the above, in the context of making home
networking safer/smarter/faster/better, that could apply? Or any
context, really? (benchmarking? simulation work)

I did submit a proposal elsewhere for the "make fair queuing work well=
with vpns" idea that I proposed on this list earlier this month,
rather than sit down and spend the time to actually do it...

... and I am looking over various other SBIR and NSF style grants.

... and trying to figure out what to do next year, that makes sense.

--
Dave T=C3=A4ht

[1] I would really like to find a way to partner up formally with a uni or = two.

http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Ta= lks
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