From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com (mail-qt0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163163CB35; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id z8-v6so755146qto.9; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 15:37:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YR+aoyKH7PdJesVfUplIxclKhPM2KBybuBYD2EbkRTU=; b=H49uGW4leX56jg2IfyQxDTuISe3dj0ZLpRTKsoGapTdUd2B1lT0EqCC6T9Axqxop0h Wchmz3pESRS/iPp6wF6KvQGjBHF5f0kbqw+/1G/IRuovvrKkE6CsLYXEtBp7Tm5sj+Ms nctJ4DtMq9sLlmkz6JXkM7+kx5tyrnxpS1UT8BDX3AaFqiYYnpX2rDL0UWTiFkcne/0N ZM3q8L+FspCsQBylyDDeqpuOA6YeNejdDR/Mwbco78ILgGGqkHg39kuJ2gZcDymNKnxv EHfb5tWRHrKM3WUwQGb9JbwIlokcxUsJ4x78iA+AB4k6+4ZHglhQVRo6sIjFFNEW93Zt uPQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YR+aoyKH7PdJesVfUplIxclKhPM2KBybuBYD2EbkRTU=; b=OvYPdxspxtuyDN/2ossTVnzKlz9AWhubGw0B+ZD5gC17bypVkgu1TQb4q2yPBmTEXB XsVpW6JaVO1OrAQ0Q00l9+q6aQDPnVpLCUueNzzaSe72OLTF7i38iG1X/uUXdGcF1lDB tfq+gUdDKSgxZ98T0EM4xDikbDyY/0jsJnaWODNfSx10NO/acWxwKkxDQHy7BN/aaK48 t0hIhF3QmjomRKQHc8iMXkksR67+0/aSjXZcYwzC7HwX/jcmAR9XgRRFZz7gi8SBHsq0 8p5/e1UQ2ASvvDVu4kkfV+5t93HAbL8IBCF5JqCQ1kpuCaLFhxJMB6funLInjItfc7ru yLUA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BgdNe2MNNhi2LU9G9yXWVJ7mLPtNYVM3U/n4a4PtRBZk/VNALY bRMpBgi+qG6m8eL23dC4k9L8B0nfvGOZ/2/AORk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdbg+1k8t/P9prwjzUUm8V3Z7XKBroMsRQIR0OCK6Yh5mVMyi0E9D5jLLC+98ARwXhwjbT5x3VlZcl3jdsGyE+8= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:50ce:: with SMTP id e14-v6mr15182879qvq.232.1535409461710; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jonathan Morton Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 01:37:24 +0300 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Bob McMahon , bloat-announce@lists.bufferbloat.net, Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, dpreed@deepplum.com, bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008cd4dd0574725fcb" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:37:42 -0000 --0000000000008cd4dd0574725fcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Indeed - and conversely, there may be interference that the transmitter can hear clearly but which is irrelevant to the intended receiver. In that case, any form of LBT will be needlessly conservative. - Jonathan Morton --0000000000008cd4dd0574725fcb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Indeed - and conversely, there may be interference that the = transmitter can hear clearly but which is irrelevant to the intended receiv= er.=C2=A0 In that case, any form of LBT will be needlessly conservative.

- Jonathan Morton

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