From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vn0-x22e.google.com (mail-vn0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDD9021F1F4; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vnbf62 with SMTP id f62so1021123vnb.3; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=diY0wEYnG+g+DXz8aViiVEi2XgUSoZyqSHs934+rl3A=; b=JR9ni61Ek9SxCfFjEIYet1HSQ0vAeG9wzq48AxmsspVFqFUFnZB/mBUos6K/Ek9C88 FT5NvJmMf7vN3UvM+nFYRRVyQn9BGhE6qJ+HyymvrxxB2KdI2VRI+ammTgs3/e5rq/g0 l/dJ5D6o4Y0xpep1oIZDr1ALQnN6S6knINA2/txFinTl2HTAt+3HEeDTEg6732Gyd5Zz G2qLKc2EoEsFvhWrI0FUBzSxv1NiGjBW8aseZX72Z/vg/A5fnfvyKRiBobsjSArnNO4C 6Xba0ozzty+aJiaOa90kzMv7ReVsydVZjGGpmjYdqDID8cjg8YYbjNa+87hrejqeasIo p93A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.34.228 with SMTP id c4mr40411670vdj.42.1430254348125; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.12.167 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.12.167 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 23:52:28 +0300 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Morton To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30780ad85bcd050514cf0a97 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] documentation review request and out of tree cake builds for openwrt/etc. X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:52:58 -0000 --20cf30780ad85bcd050514cf0a97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > An integral shaper (that can be on or off or tuned dynamically) > --- > is much "tighter" than htb - works on current low end hardware without running out of cpu. See attached graphs. This seems to imply that "tighter" means "uses less CPU". In fact they are two separate benefits; "tighter" means "bursts less". Also, what graphs? As for installing kernel headers, on Debian based distros the right package should be linux-headers-`uname -r` . - Jonathan Morton --20cf30780ad85bcd050514cf0a97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

> An integral shaper (that can be on or off or tuned dynamically)
> ---
> is much "tighter" than htb - works on current low end hardware without running out of cpu. See attached graphs.

This seems to imply that "tighter" means "uses less CPU". In fact they are two separate benefits; "tighter" means "bursts less".

Also, what graphs?

As for installing kernel headers, on Debian based distros the right package should be linux-headers-`uname -r` .

- Jonathan Morton

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