From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com (mail-lb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DADA621F2E5 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id w7so7172056lbi.35 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aenertia.net; s=dkimaenertianet; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sxe0pMzAOuofUQobhJxf95j9bFuU8TQmM95kCzIYwOQ=; b=dQLRFAOyYLW7liap3Mgym3bAr1H2w7qg7QfQuMGeRQaJDOWsgropMGcpAnphe8etkJ nXRMDIFo2Tv3Syo2XbsxZu2f8IwKg7rtncJGLQeR6b1MY4YflFtJfisiwQ8c+Zb6xkh1 eKXQ3Kzaso78rHDcZTaAL5SuMp3DNRa46tnAw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sxe0pMzAOuofUQobhJxf95j9bFuU8TQmM95kCzIYwOQ=; b=kYXs3GJFpKjKcd5fY9zGIWYiXKfaUVmcyj5Ny5zO/Qe97JkuBdcvLP0ckOJ5aT1BAl oPTN57oIlzFvJnpSyiWMmlaqK+Mf1/z1gO4250BL2i/ZWJO4wHvEYffsZK1X48Vb5jof dSSeMUvGAKMcVXTE4TZaxIQN4kQreQ07L7CehxH1aPnmSVIv1kn4QBurLtXBTVchRVKQ Sz7Z5AugzpoC2iihmM0azrL8xLE8VyZhR8ii/pn4jlpZ2QN4CQoF52swH6bhJa0a8yCV JEdJz4Cv+IL/UJq/GVU/q2/PmxxdfFaqTfPjKir+CGF15kSYCMFeHRBv/Q28H7S4sYth Yd5w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkt42EJvIMF04gVLvkE63eAxqS3z8ZUFIeBwlAT9FM70mUgQcvV2Qdy8A9AVY177Gcrw6Xn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.202.135 with SMTP id ki7mr7266790lac.16.1411625578488; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aenertia@aenertia.net Received: by 10.25.16.168 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.16.168 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:12:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:12:58 +1200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: O57e1lMnBf4wlLFpacVpiwugBjA Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?= To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135fb42297c3e0503ddb198 Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fiber to the yurt approved X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:13:30 -0000 --001a1135fb42297c3e0503ddb198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Put as many pairs as you can fit into the conduit to leave quite a lot of slack (2-5metres) We bury our splitters with ofdm break outs in waterproof boxes every 500m - 2km or so for the GPON roll out and blow the Fibre to the premise from the split. Burying splinter boxes prevents vandalism/flooding issues and accidents. Con's you have to dig it up every time you want to connect another pair into the ofdm. Fibre blower kit is expensive. Choose your connectors on the ofdm carefully. LC style connectors are the norm on SFP(+) optics and isn't angled. This is my personal favorite but some dislike it. Is rarely the norm for In premise kit especially for pon. Angled and unangled SC connectors are norm for PON and CPE Home kit. Angled is better for loss and used primarily on the splitter OFDM but easy to munge if you connect angled to unangled. You might even consider just not using a splinter or OFDM patch at all and just having slack and unterminated fibers. Cheap Chinese Fujikura equivalent spilcers can be had for around 3000$ now. And splicing is always better than patching IME. Have fun! -Joel On 25 Sep 2014 17:11, "Dave Taht" wrote: > I just (surprisingly) got approval to do FTTY (fiber to the yurt) > here. (There are some geeks on the board of directors) > > Questions on trenching - got all the equipment (backhoe, etc), but not sure > what to lay in the ground, how deep, what regs apply, etc. > > It sounds like laying conduit is the best option? Sources? 1000 meter > roll of what? what tools needed? (will look over the various > tutorials) > > The other piece I'm vague on is how to split out each fiber from the > bundle to each location. > > It seems sanest to standardize on single mode fiber (longest run would > be 600m), would be nice to find an openwrt capable router instead of a > media converter... > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVRLZI/ref=s9_simh_se_p147_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=search-desktop-advertising-no-results-center-1&pf_rd_r=11AB4X7H6AZMPAKH0WSG&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1912906182&pf_rd_i=fiber%20ground%20burial > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --001a1135fb42297c3e0503ddb198 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Put as many pairs as you can fit into the conduit to leave q= uite a lot of slack (2-5metres)

We bury our splitters with ofdm break outs in waterproof box= es every 500m - 2km or so for the GPON roll out and blow the Fibre to the p= remise from the split. Burying splinter boxes prevents vandalism/flooding i= ssues and accidents. Con's you have to dig it up every time you want to= connect another pair into the ofdm. Fibre blower kit is expensive.

Choose your connectors on the ofdm carefully. LC style conne= ctors are the norm on SFP(+) optics and isn't angled. This is my person= al favorite but some dislike it. Is rarely the norm for In premise kit espe= cially for pon.

Angled and unangled SC connectors are norm for PON and CPE H= ome kit. Angled is better for loss and used primarily on the splitter OFDM = but easy to munge if you connect angled to unangled.

You might even consider just not using a splinter or OFDM pa= tch at all and just having slack and unterminated fibers. Cheap Chinese Fuj= ikura equivalent spilcers can be had for around 3000$ now. And splicing is = always better than patching IME.

Have fun!

-Joel

On 25 Sep 2014 17:11, "Dave Taht" <= dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
I just (surprisingly)= got approval to do FTTY (fiber to the yurt)
here. (There are some geeks on the board of directors)

Questions on trenching - got all the equipment (backhoe, etc), but not sure=
what to lay in the ground, how deep, what regs apply, etc.

It sounds like laying conduit is the best option? Sources? 1000 meter
roll of what? what tools needed? (will look over the various
tutorials)

The other piece I'm vague on is how to split out each fiber from the bundle to each location.

It seems sanest to standardize on single mode fiber (longest run would
be 600m), would be nice to find an openwrt capable router instead of a
media converter...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVRLZI/ref=3Ds9_simh_se_p147_d0_i4?= pf_rd_m=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=3Dsearch-desktop-advertising-no-results= -center-1&pf_rd_r=3D11AB4X7H6AZMPAKH0WSG&pf_rd_t=3D301&pf_rd_p= =3D1912906182&pf_rd_i=3Dfiber%20ground%20burial
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