From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb0-x22f.google.com (mail-yb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0DD93B2A4 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yb0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id k4so5881410ybc.1 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:47:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aenertia.net; s=dkimaenertianet; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FsYwKEWRo2WxGlikcEnFv0pAtpdKLyAo0V+yimiEXss=; b=HVAI8ShJAhG006FwDLKduMh7dizE+1YRJ4uKiypoqxMWNwdlmKtq9aG+/onHikJ8+y H8cbRXhx4z56VzS4UDJ5mcP0bwLujGe9lxi+/wX4M0sVBAXnf1lgiA+slWTCYji0NZ4b gWz2A3kWE3e0mECu7dfC5sFCcQ1Hx9EaHxo7c= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FsYwKEWRo2WxGlikcEnFv0pAtpdKLyAo0V+yimiEXss=; b=ndPW+HQQwJYahthECXp4ulENrgWxDel9VtJQ29Pd185rg2EjdSHhBSOwZvb2LWTEvH 8Mksy3iznZgqHJWwPjrRWmy5vj6Ndo82E88uR3pkxxKhv7wxlOU35lVgAwLUEri2s/e5 e4KtX7Tzk459JOdmcPycS86CWt2it0K2sKmfxIqD+WC2zSzwByBrwJHh77wLbSUrCIMj j1cX2IqTohmfmNYU4tt3Q4O5y7rH0c4VYaR+R7pAIUtHmZu/Mq/FBFIWFEv1zY8ws/+F QybMsZXj6UQfRERXwrdqXKYEWRl2cOcakkYaD7Yp+g2eH+X6JMKG3M+ziA6XjBmYFm3F a3SQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6wdEkHE+Hgbh5rfYl458/gYh65ErSA2VwDcFlS6JNg8YdLEqvN RgMlpYgjC+U9XCU+VF3hXL8t3t0k7U2pORE9CaXCAg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZdCeSih/nNLdIhS6EaP3eZR9sdPep4eRuK+RJyG5qsOUgFhK0rfkvuXk9RXIIHsAUliRAgEcNi5Yh3vp4JCyQ= X-Received: by 10.37.22.2 with SMTP id 2mr5537688ybw.379.1512334069875; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:47:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aenertia@aenertia.net Received: by 10.37.173.2 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 12:47:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <92906bd8-7bad-945d-83c8-a2f9598aac2c@lackof.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?= Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:47:29 +1300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kKBXq56JZ--xwi5BeOecPVRawXw Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Matt Taggart , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] quad core arm X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 20:47:50 -0000 Just from a Telco/Industry perspective slant. Everything in DC has moved to SFP28 interfaces at 25Gbit as the server port of interconnect. Everything TOR wise is now QSFP28 - 100Gbit. Mellanox X5 cards are the current hotness, and their offload enhancements (ASAP2 - which is sorta like DPDK on steroids) allows for OVS flow rules programming into the card. We have a lot of customers chomping at the bit for that feature (disclaimer I work for Nuage Networks, and we are working on enhanced OVS to do just that) for NFV workloads. SFP+ 10gbit MIGHT become the target for the home Handoff, but I see a lot of startup ISP's doing inhouse built OVS controlled SD-WAN style deployments. I still however can't see a coherent edge at 10gbit ecosystem. Docsis 3.1 now has 10gbit channel support, which is fine and dandy but there is literally only the atom board I mentioned before as the only edge device out capable of doing that right now, and I am only seing that used in Expensive SD-WAN + NFV boxen for corporates. The Home 10gbit plus box is still up for grabs in the market and no one is biting. On 4 December 2017 at 08:55, Dave Taht wrote: > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Matt Taggart wrote: >> On 12/03/2017 09:44 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >>> Anyway the nanopi folk are now producing a wide range of boards I >>> haven't tried... til tomorrow: >>> >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0728LPB2R/ref=3Doh_aui_detailpage_o0= 0_s01?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1 >> >> >> Is this the same thing for cheaper? >> http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=3Dproduct/product&product_id= =3D180 >> >> (but slow and non-free shipping) >> It appears to be the H5. > > Yep. Shipping from china takes a while. They also have a nice one bay > nas case of the right form-factor for an SSD. > They have a new octocore board too, and at least the promise of a > mainlined kernel across much of their product line. > Ordered one of those too. > > And the allwinner products (like the odroid) do look to be coming along, = also. > > http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort > > > >> -- >> Matt Taggart >> matt@lackof.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CEO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-669-226-2619 > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel