From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vs1-xe29.google.com (mail-vs1-xe29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 141CF3CB35 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe29.google.com with SMTP id m18so9627992vsa.1 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:09:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aenertia.net; s=dkimaenertianet; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1yB/3flrK12oMo9w9E08W5fb0m0IBU2T7CbiYtOHlUk=; b=f76rPijHggeYAYkPmWysFKuTD8hhbixeqgZ0GnL7JFNjXdo1mGNfGG5RlBMIcEe/bv AtkNh9YwsLuan0pCN8HC7Q3SMlK/6oEMvdrf+0GpTKfqwfABeVyvFC0tt2KpvP7Td94O yTUEZ8LtYykwbYk1zgBW6JyRRP+WcGEPVlnMg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1yB/3flrK12oMo9w9E08W5fb0m0IBU2T7CbiYtOHlUk=; b=oDqFwQt2Hvnhs2kok1FvfAPR4sQ6hKcGzmPlGGIHPRAWo/dVZgJ1O443OqhsEN9uhV h40hvJ25a/feNS65+5RklUDypRUOdJdvsLLVi4q+sQUBlE3YMZ5xFMkFSu2RTJw/lIHi f2hPBnTZVJN+nWu90QYuFWR9tIumvyEiVHbL02zZGagd1Vto9PYewkl5yJ9Lw46n25Ae AS82n9plsZLp/rosGL9mWjsP0E4FzWLm18tXrnknTlnQta7ldgictWM2E0Vl+6TTi1kt gyztk6TFiYW1n7fxhBQwX/3w60anpYeiJSpw41Bp4Zjpvgpw+19TDniPhDVjS8XpL0ml mYpg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532FSBBGfgz4/Et/2Y4Ri/B3MSbk2O2jbm+uJ7dHu74qqx2cMF7C BfnpFVs2w021DyrdVDPwzojlGAUWL7z1VNUkBYFXcQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyck6vlDuSW6xUTvMfZlu8Xf3lTs6dcxBTX6CXK1ESygJMLj95RfM7pnN7LHrXHAId9Jcv7ZGm2vBI6MFg/QjA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:ce:: with SMTP id u14mr3692963vsp.28.1615414165333; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:09:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <797d57333ef504c724262aae5856d5dda54459d0.camel@lochnair.net> In-Reply-To: <797d57333ef504c724262aae5856d5dda54459d0.camel@lochnair.net> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:09:14 +1300 Message-ID: To: Nils Andreas Svee Cc: Dave Taht , cerowrt-devel Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007d7af005bd35eb8e" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:09:26 -0000 --0000000000007d7af005bd35eb8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I was hoping the Lawsuit with Cambria would result in something. tl;dr Ubiquity took cambria to court because the claimed they copied stuff, cambria responded with their own litigation by saying Ubiquity wasn't complying with GPL. But they settled under NDA and we all lost out. On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:44 AM Nils Andreas Svee wrote: > Was kinda tempted to get one of those at one point, but seeing the > software problems with them I'm staying away. Although it could be a > nice OpenWrt box of course. > > Ah yes the GPL violations. I've been asked about bringing both CAKE and > WireGuard to the UDMs, but with no sources there's not really anything > I can do (someone did get userspace based WireGuard working though). > > When someone contacted UBNT support about it they responded with "We > don't have any plan to release the GPL source code for the UDM and UDM > pro yet". > > I mean in EdgeMax land they might need a poke to release the archives > for a new firmware release, but they'll do it. For these however it's > been 8 months since that request and we've seen nothing. > > Next time I'm in the market for new networking equipment I'm probably > not going to touch Ubiquiti again. I digged it back in the days > fq_codel was added into the firmware that we reminisced about, but > those times seems to be long behind us. > > > > -- > Best Regards, > Nils > > On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 12:09 -0800, Dave Taht wrote: > > I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro > > > > the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits > > through sqm. the sqm-scripts > > just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui... > > the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on > > it first time > > the bad - innumerable gpl violations > > the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it > > at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn't > > work. > > > > I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to > > openwrt without fiddlin further. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --0000000000007d7af005bd35eb8e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was hoping the Lawsuit with Cambria would result in something= .

tl;dr Ubiquity took cambria to court because the claimed they copied= stuff, cambria responded with their own litigation by saying Ubiquity wasn= 't complying with GPL.

But they settled under NDA and we all lost = out.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:44 AM Nils Andreas Svee <me@lochnair.net> wrote:
Was kinda tempted to get one = of those at one point, but seeing the
software problems with them I'm staying away. Although it could be a nice OpenWrt box of course.

Ah yes the GPL violations. I've been asked about bringing both CAKE and=
WireGuard to the UDMs, but with no sources there's not really anything<= br> I can do (someone did get userspace based WireGuard working though).

When someone contacted UBNT support about it they responded with "We don't have any plan to release the GPL source code for the UDM and UDM<= br> pro yet".

I mean in EdgeMax land they might need a poke to release the archives
for a new firmware release, but they'll do it. For these however it'= ;s
been 8 months since that request and we've seen nothing.

Next time I'm in the market for new networking equipment I'm probab= ly
not going to touch Ubiquiti again. I digged it back in the days
fq_codel was added into the firmware that we reminisced about, but
those times seems to be long behind us.

</rant>

--
Best Regards,
Nils

On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 12:09 -0800, Dave Taht wrote:
> I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro
>
> the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits
> through sqm. the sqm-scripts
> just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui...=
> the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on > it first time
> the bad - innumerable gpl violations
> the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it > at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn'= t
> work.
>
> I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to
> openwrt without fiddlin further.
>
>


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