From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B791821F18E for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id g10so3562879vbg.13 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:48:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LW9KVAObEO3CIjc4asr7+r5tlGGNiHzzZW/mdmrSJMU=; b=MiMzSFZvZ81EYmlS/UOE+Fcvv090qSdQ7yHM/95fN7oETtYrd3jxDkAtqqVHWnjHeP C1Fe4vV3YSVCtq6/1zFjLr7wvsh9yVB7MiCK3rd021NXIwVlYjAMHivAcEXJOJQ+dWZo ph8LrW4/SkVS0oU+rJP2glVDmojdMbmIM2rKW/Br1ATGox/we4iiKZOV/r/YQcQdf7Uw QFbqS48DknedCmqJsG16AbX3y6OUj+M183t+mdM2aPFPBXkqvxkLQaroGJwMNqFOUzZx fcSH6HfKqVH0oUTHG/B8N8pYpBCK83WsaEvnFdBna8GVp3pP70TPVVOYSu3UjE6G6YSn PgEw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnTPJMpgxFV416NKsiPoK6kXwNrHKH5ITijIj52y/tvg5MNwP1Rn1qNViD9zMpy408ATGSA MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.171.227 with SMTP id ax3mr3979317vdc.34.1387226929991; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.109.134 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:48:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:48:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kelvin Edmison To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160cdf862ab0904edacf064 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:48:52 -0000 --089e0160cdf862ab0904edacf064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe that generally, users understand versions and speeds but not the implications of certain frequencies. So, rather than focusing on the frequency I would throw these out there as suggestions: (even though the nit-picker in me is cringing a bit) For the 2.4GHz SSID: - CEROwrt-old - CEROwrt-slow and just CEROwrt for the 5GHz SSID, with the intent that the the choice offered to the users nudges them towards the better choice. Cheers, Kelvin On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I have long used "5" as an indicator that the 5ghz channel was better. > This goes back to a long thread on nanog, like 4? 5? years ago, where > the hope was to train users that "5" was better. > > Well, it's turned out that 5 is frequently better, but not always, AND > that clients tend to go for the shortest of the SSIDs available. So a > thought would be to create another ad-hoc standard for deprecating 2.4 > ghz, and have the shorter SSID be the 5ghz one. > > Ideas for the 2ghz channel: > > CEROwrt-legacy > CEROwrt2 > > I'm not huge on "legacy" because it's rather long but am stuck for > standards, I'd like a default 2.4 ghz SSID that clearly indicates the > real use to which 2.4ghz is suitable, like: > CEROwrt-GET-OFF-MY-BABY-MONITOR-YOU-FREAK > > ideas for another ssid naming standard slightly longer than a single > digit that would make sense to mom? > > -- > Dave T=E4ht > > Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: > http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --089e0160cdf862ab0904edacf064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I believe that generally, users understand versions and sp= eeds but not the implications of certain frequencies. =A0So, rather than fo= cusing on the frequency I would throw these out there as suggestions: (even= though the nit-picker in me is cringing a bit)

For the 2.4GHz SSID:
- CEROwrt-old
- CER= Owrt-slow

and just CEROwrt for the 5GHz SSID, with= the intent that the the choice offered to the users nudges them towards th= e better choice.

Cheers,
=A0 Kelvin

=


On Mon, Dec 1= 6, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:=
I have long used "5" as an indicat= or that the 5ghz channel was better.
This goes back to a long thread on nanog, like 4? 5? years ago, where
the hope was to train users that "5" was better.

Well, it's turned out that 5 is frequently better, but not always, AND<= br> that clients tend to go for the shortest of the SSIDs available. So a
thought would be to create another ad-hoc standard for deprecating 2.4
ghz, and have the shorter SSID be the 5ghz one.

Ideas for the 2ghz channel:

CEROwrt-legacy
CEROwrt2

I'm not huge on "legacy" because it's rather long but am = stuck for
standards, I'd like a default 2.4 ghz SSID that clearly indicates the real use to which 2.4ghz is suitable, like:
CEROwrt-GET-OFF-MY-BABY-MONITOR-YOU-FREAK

ideas for another ssid naming standard slightly longer than a single
digit that would make sense to mom?

--
Dave T=E4ht

Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscrib= e.html
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