From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC04F21F22A for ; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id rl12so2601268iec.18 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:38:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pZMz0W3PgQif4kcGYWnvn4CjTFhL9nvzutGLmvt3aok=; b=h5jUQtGgTqp6c6iy5R4JC1VB9CqzIyPdEaSlOv0qPs5F9TL9t/Fh6tjjhgO6h3FIEf Cys9pQ/VGClS8CmHHHTsWsdCBaD/esQ5dbcIpR9gR1NP4PQiFegUG71txl8LF14zrKyB V4av7gIcexZOT3l0Iz5xXUDXeqirJ35IN6UVBrWZO3b+5wwMQWv1x0Scvy4dzFyPAnxB y+dNLBTAbrQDzPaDhGXTdy/zpfAeM0d7vpQly1q2RGTh9oDa95wfWkcT7F6nTw0lBsNj ZN3L83CWaJvVWGFxA/50QzClEGEmNB9psQ1cqFYTiFoynMRb2gRIR4f0VBHePXsojhMQ jsbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.12.100 with SMTP id x4mr11267658igb.15.1397925529935; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.238.70 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:38:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1397924468.489728228@apps.rackspace.com> References: <1397924468.489728228@apps.rackspace.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 18:38:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: Aaron Wood To: dpreed@reed.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118238aa2691804f767e64a Cc: cerowrt-devel Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] comcast provisioned rates? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 16:38:51 -0000 --089e0118238aa2691804f767e64a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Based on these results: http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/jimreisert/results.html And talking off-list with Jim, I think that the "PowerBoost" is above the quoted rate, as the 24/4 service hits >36Mbps TCP data rate. I'm definitely sad that using SQM in the router instead of the modem loses features like that. But I'll just be happy to have upload over 1Mbps again. I do know that the FCC was cracking down on advertised vs. actual rates, and started a "measuring broadband in America" project: http://www.fcc.gov/measuring-broadband-america -Aaron On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 6:21 PM, wrote: > As a non-Comcast-customer, I am curious too. I had thought their "boost" > feature allowed temporary rates *larger* than the quoted "up to" rates. > (but I remember the old TV-diagonal games and disk capacity games, where > any way to get a larger number was used in the advertising, since the FTC > didn't have a definition that could be applied). > > > > I wonder if some enterprising lawyer might bring the necessary consumer > fraud class-action before the FTC to get clear definitions of the numbers? > It's probably too much to ask for Comcast to go on the record with a > precise definition. > > > > > > On Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:55am, "Aaron Wood" said: > > I'm setting up new service in the US, and I'm currently assuming that > all of Comcast's rates are "boosted" rates, not the "provisioned" rates. > So if they quote 50/10Mbps, I assume that's not what will need to be set > in SQM with CeroWRT. > Does anyone have good info on the "provisioned" rates that go with each of > the Comcast tiers? > Basically, I'm trying to get to an apples-to-apples comparison with > Sonic.net DSL (I'll be close enough to the CO to run in Annex M "upload > priority" mode and get ~18/2 service). > Thanks, > Aaron > --089e0118238aa2691804f767e64a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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And talking off-list with Jim, I think that the "PowerBoost"= is above the quoted rate, as the 24/4 service hits >36Mbps TCP data rat= e. =C2=A0I'm definitely sad that using SQM in the router instead of the= modem loses features like that. =C2=A0But I'll just be happy to have u= pload over 1Mbps again.

I do know that the FCC was cracking down on advertised = vs. actual rates, and started a "measuring broadband in America" = project:


-Aaron

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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 6:21 PM, <dpreed@re= ed.com> wrote:

As a non-Comcast-customer, I am curious too. =C2=A0I had thought t= heir "boost" feature allowed temporary rates *larger* than the qu= oted "up to" rates. =C2=A0(but I remember the old TV-diagonal gam= es and disk capacity games, where any way to get a larger number was used i= n the advertising, since the FTC didn't have a definition that could be= applied).

=C2=A0

I wonder if some enterprising lawyer might = bring the necessary consumer fraud class-action before the FTC to get clear= definitions of the numbers? It's probably too much to ask for Comcast = to go on the record with a precise definition.

=C2=A0



On Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:55am,= "Aaron Wood" <woody77@gmail.com> said:

I'm setting up new service in the US, and I'm curr= ently assuming that all of Comcast's rates are "boosted" rate= s, not the "provisioned" rates.
So if they quote 50/10Mbps, I assume that's not what will need to = be set in SQM with CeroWRT.
Does anyone have good info on the "provisioned" rates that g= o with each of the Comcast tiers?
Basically, I'm trying to get to an apples-to-apples comparison wit= h Sonic.net DSL (I'll be close enough to the CO to run in Annex M "= ;upload priority" mode and get ~18/2 service).
Thanks,
Aaron

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