I'll hit it from Comcast's ~150Mbps service on the peninsula when I get home today (with and without sqm) -Aaron On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I just put a netperf server up in linode's freemont, ca, cloud (kvm > paravirtualized hardware), with sch_fq enabled, ecn disabled, and bbr > as the default cc. (reno and cubic are also allowed) > > I am curious if y'all hit it with your rrul, tcp_ndown, > rtt_fair_var_down (vs flent-freemont in the same dc) etc, that you get > sane results - with and without sqm-scripts moderating your > connection. > > I've always kind of worried that sch_fq would misbehave in a > virtualized environment, and they seem to do some odd things with > policing/shaping in their world that I've not sorted out (speeds > > 200Mbit) > > DNS for flent-bbr-west.bufferbloat.net is propagating (both IPv4 and IPv6) > > Til then: > the ipv4 for the thing is: 173 dot 230 dot 156 dot 252 > > I've put a broad sweep of results up in my github, haven't looked at > them to a huge extent yet. > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Aaron Wood wrote: > > Thanks! And sorry that I missed the sample code in the patch. > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:30 Neal Cardwell > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Aaron Wood wrote: > >> > Dumb question on this: The tcp_bbr_info struct for a socket can be > >> > inspected at runtime through the ss utility or through a get socket > opts > >> > call, right? > >> > >> Yes, you can use either approach: > >> > >> (1) from code you can use TCP_CC_INFO socket option; there is sample > >> code in the original kernel patch for TCP_CC_INFO: > >> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/465806/ > >> > >> (2) from ss: if you download and build the net-next branch of the > >> iproute2 package: > >> > >> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/shemminger/ > iproute2.git/log/?h=net-next > >> then you will get support to print out the main parameters for a BBR > >> connection, eg: > >> > >> The patch with BBR support for ss is here: > >> > >> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/shemminger/ > iproute2.git/commit/?h=net-next&id=2f0f9aef94129643133363b4503468 > cdccc481cc > >> > >> As the commit notes, the BBR output looks like: > >> bbr:(bw:1.2Mbps,mrtt:18.965,pacing_gain:2.88672,cwnd_gain:2.88672) > >> > >> Hope that helps, > >> neal > >> > >> > > >> > -Aaron > >> > > >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Maciej Soltysiak > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> Just saw this: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/671069/ > >> >> > >> >> Interested to see how BBR would play out with things like fq_codel or > >> >> cake. > >> >> > >> >> "loss-based congestion control is unfortunately out-dated in today's > >> >> networks. On > >> >> today's Internet, loss-based congestion control causes the infamous > >> >> bufferbloat problem" > >> >> > >> >> So, instead of waiting for packet loss they probe and measure, e.g. > >> >> when > >> >> doing slow start (here called STARTUP) they don't speed up until > packet > >> >> loss, but slow down before reaching estimated bandwidth level. > >> >> > >> >> Cake and fq_codel work on all packets and aim to signal packet loss > >> >> early > >> >> to network stacks by dropping; BBR works on TCP and aims to prevent > >> >> packet > >> >> loss. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Maciej > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list > >> >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > >> > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > > > > > > -- > Dave Täht > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! > http://blog.cerowrt.org >