From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FEE83B2A4 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 00:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id x21so9235978eds.4 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PMkYnxPIfPMDz+zV2SVnNQsGuPcwi3GUxHfFqvcGrJw=; b=uYIe9kdYQnFidzXQ1Obcq8rqdcKPFJ3BRJK3fnmH1mxpjTY8IF1rnXYzz+wqz9V4ip 5lBTU2gf/nmq+s/CLtJXfMMbD5+gNApIDyQZ56OnLvtelUL+XPChzmQXov64yaldw6sm SR7Vvs/zNQLADTwOjQLMMbrUeFyseTHuoKyaoMkShisKyyJaUrXRLJb03WTzSph6IT4z 0JG+ZJrLBy4ixgOsgZC+SHFhrIS3tWcdB5hBRf9y+S8fD2tvjPwHnMskUNo5auwGftHs 1WiEwAe0/YD2J76M+Pi261CFYypdlHk8yjncmAMGQXW3iebFppEOe95q2KKNHU8rvfXF 7lDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PMkYnxPIfPMDz+zV2SVnNQsGuPcwi3GUxHfFqvcGrJw=; b=CyPxyMVeiI6zyQ8GTNyqN7eImF/95JH1ZXBxG58Qq8z7ii9SBcm+bLvh1bYzv/gYCC L9xmE5j/CpOikXE7YwCtqp1bDQOueuGOEshLx0MugMKTltE+kEud8hFyFJBxHTmwQBwJ GsyXlsXt0SoNUWpfoOhR6l1yrDUoakdFadh07Vri2IHf4yO5N3VaaZbF3XfWniNj1u94 MyakSiP3qw5gHclp883FYwVf+Yx1F6vvg35CCPD6GFr+O8MQdET6jZHdobY1ndVJ3ofa 6t7tRMyY7hF1CNKYfBVkp90973UXT0TLP8glpcnVrXJLb+Gl/FYPdTLWyrSwfjlrAG9m Ts+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532asfHIHOXR4RvAtE6nq2/wIDQG3ve47Nti0vOXv/3jWFCTUvzm iWwuLE6uSY3b+M38NDWKGubAp1gfnUOFyVeSYf7WApH69j8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyNUCRhPEfeT746qTCRgHLXzyOVe7hZK36OJWo1BfmzGNuHEEZkO7qSRTtc5zpp2YQoIRTbqgutTlutzkX8BzU= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:dc15:: with SMTP id b21mr7404397edu.350.1616127796997; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:23:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1287379027.1155590.1615919208363.ref@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: From: Aaron Wood Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:23:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: Matt Taggart , cerowrt-devel Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004073ad05bddc13cb" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations ! X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 04:23:18 -0000 --0000000000004073ad05bddc13cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using the Seeed Odyssey https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105864-p-4447.html It will shape inbound using cake (piece of cake) at 1Gbps. Dual Intel i210 controllers. I'm running stable OpenWRT, although I needed to use ToT to get a UEFI boot setup for it that would work with the internal eMMC. But it has hilariously more storage and memory that I need for a border router. I _can_ completely utilize a single core with cake on inbound traffic, so I'd like to sort out multiqueue (needs a newer kernel version with a newer driver from Intel), but I haven't bothered, since it seems to handle things well, and I rarely sustain 1Gbps downloads. I use the most aggressive ACK filtering setting with cake due to the 30:1 asymmetry on the link. On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 3:54 AM Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen via Cerowr= t-devel < cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen" > To: Matt Taggart , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:54:08 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations = ! > Matt Taggart writes: > > > On 3/16/21 11:30 AM, Charles Rothschild via Cerowrt-devel wrote: > > > > > I want a 1GB capable SQM router. What options are good nowadays hw > wise? > > > > I've been using the Qotom x86 boxes and running x86 OpenWRT on them. > > They have no problem doing CAKE on 1gig symmetrical connection. > > > > http://qotom.net/ and then Products -> Mini PC -> Multiple NIC > > > > But the Qotom vendor site is confusing and also doesn't list all the > > products you can find available. So a while ago I made this decoder rin= g > > > > https://we.riseup.net/lackof/x86-router-candidates#qotom > > Nice list! One comment - the page says this: > > > The Intel AES-NI cpu extension can really help openssl/wireguard a lot > > That is true for openssl (and other TLS, even IPSec, I think), but not > for wireguard - that doesn't use AES at all, but rather ChaCha20, which > is not accelerated by AES-NI (and doesn't need it either). > > -Toke > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen via Cerowrt-devel" < > cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net> > To: Matt Taggart , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 03:54:14 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations = ! > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --0000000000004073ad05bddc13cb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It will shape inbound using cake (piece of cake) at 1Gbp= s.=C2=A0 Dual Intel i210 controllers.=C2=A0 I'm running stable OpenWRT,= although I needed to use ToT to get a UEFI boot setup for it that would=C2= =A0work with the internal eMMC.

But it has hilario= usly more storage and memory that I need for a border router.=C2=A0 I _can_= completely utilize a single core with cake on inbound traffic, so I'd = like to sort out multiqueue (needs a newer kernel version with a newer driv= er from Intel), but I haven't bothered, since it seems to handle things= well, and I rarely sustain 1Gbps downloads.

I use= the most aggressive ACK filtering setting with cake due to the 30:1 asymme= try=C2=A0on the link.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 3:54 AM Toke H=C3=B8ilan= d-J=C3=B8rgensen via Cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:



---------- Forwarded message ----------From:=C2=A0"Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To:=C2=A0Matt T= aggart <matt@lackof= .org>, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Cc:=C2=A0
Bcc:=C2= =A0
Date:=C2=A0Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:54:08 +0100
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Cer= owrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations !
Matt Taggart &= lt;matt@lackof.org= > writes:

> On 3/16/21 11:30 AM, Charles Rothschild via Cerowrt-devel wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 > I want a 1GB capable SQM router. What options are good nowa= days hw wise?
>
> I've been using the Qotom x86 boxes and running x86 OpenWRT on the= m.
> They have no problem doing CAKE on 1gig symmetrical connection.
>
> htt= p://qotom.net/=C2=A0 and then Products -> Mini PC -> Multiple NIC=
>
> But the Qotom vendor site is confusing and also doesn't list all t= he
> products you can find available. So a while ago I made this decoder ri= ng
>
> https://we.riseup.net/lackof/x86-router= -candidates#qotom

Nice list! One comment - the page says this:

> The Intel AES-NI cpu extension can really help openssl/wireguard a lot=

That is true for openssl (and other TLS, even IPSec, I think), but not
for wireguard - that doesn't use AES at all, but rather ChaCha20, which=
is not accelerated by AES-NI (and doesn't need it either).

-Toke



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