From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A39E421F144 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j1so1185050oag.15 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=XDmSXqmm97p8ppDxQqk3NpFwlADhe48yIE+Oe/LnAwQ=; b=cXqRFMSSCCSTxOpZ7tS+1U2c63c9AzG76j2VtmT786CBYVNRSjRfwbcbEoCQ1i6YjM fjJOE7gwBnN7NgYALHyj4ATNb71VkcZKugMMCstpQnpkmsP7ibtEsQYRZyzUxwXz88ox UReyP1dm3PODjGspNQaNoeY/zWmUO8PvV4QkBSEBqqSW5EqeNnL/AsdzcZIwZgZZviL8 QJ+6uksP+4ihkHki7qQF/vFP4HtA2SXQsaKU8AJ6b12IHAPOUE1I/dgpwYU97b/zgW1g TNhzNpBtSwViz0/dBj+jDmXcOvGZF4XkjjdH8ikoS1eZ30j1DgKzgqcllW++9lUPqW+e qWQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.172.230 with SMTP id bf6mr2748191oec.102.1355862877399; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.82.73 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [77.65.42.82] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:34:37 +0100 Message-ID: From: Maciej Soltysiak To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54b4aa02beac804d1266d23 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm5ZtgLWL7EzO8jsqQkpRYR6oemcHmUEtLltX/Ky/bTkLnbdXzxBMH/3UlSy9A6khQgZDkX Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] bufferbloat and the web service providers X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:34:39 -0000 --bcaec54b4aa02beac804d1266d23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just saw another of Oatmeal's comics ( http://theoatmeal.com/pl/state_web_winter_2012/google_fiber) and it hit me. He's a swell guy, his comics are brilliant, insightful and influential (you know he raised about a million bucks to buy ground on which Nicola Tesla's used to have his lab?). Maybe we could have a word with him and ask to kindly come up with another, fantastic, comic about bufferbloat? Maciej On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > I am not into politics. Really. A problem, though is getting the NN > people on both sides to stand down, because the real problem was > bufferbloat - and then work together to move forward, on an > engineering, rather than political basis. > > So, incidentally, while I'm suddenly paying attention to politics, > while trying to find some way to get this engineering effort funded > for next year... I noticed a new lobbying group has come out of > stealth mode, representing the web apps people, google, facebook, > salesforce.com etc > > http://internetassociation.org/ > > Anybody know these guys? I have long hoped to get these services aware > that they needed to help fix bufferbloat if they wanted their cloud > based businesses to work better. > > IF I felt like expending money on a marketing campaign to explain our > issue, and get some funds towards fixing wifi in particular - > > the script to the video would look like this (leveraging the old > "brain on drugs" meme) > > * This is your cloud based business - showing a fast, normal load time > of some major website > > * This is your cloud based business on bufferbloat - showing a loaded > webload go to hell of that site > > * This is your cloud based business with bufferbloat fixed - > > * Any questions? - point back to campaign site > > Then create a copy of that 30 second piece for every one of the web > service providers listed as supporting the above org. And as many > others as possible. And get it on youtube. And buy some ads. > > I have no idea how much that would cost to produce professionally (?) > (at a cut above what jg has already done), but I'm certain it would do > some good, both in raising awareness and maybe gaining funding for > next year. > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: > http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --bcaec54b4aa02beac804d1266d23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just saw another of Oatmeal's comics (http://theoatmeal.com/pl/stat= e_web_winter_2012/google_fiber)=C2=A0and it hit me.
He's = a swell guy, his comics are brilliant, insightful and influential (you know= he raised about a million bucks to buy ground on which Nicola Tesla's = used to have his lab?).
=C2=A0
Maybe we could have a word with him and ask to kindly= come up with another, fantastic, comic about bufferbloat?
=C2=A0=
Maciej

On Mon, Nov 19, 2= 012 at 10:28 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not into politics. Really. A problem, though is getti= ng the NN
people on both sides to stand down, because the real problem was
bufferbloat - and then work together to move forward, on an
engineering, rather than political basis.

So, incidentally, while I'm suddenly paying attention to politics,
while trying to find some way to get this engineering effort funded
for next year... I noticed a new lobbying group has come out of
stealth mode, representing the web apps people, google, facebook,
salesforce.com etc<= br>
http://intern= etassociation.org/

Anybody know these guys? I have long hoped to get these services aware
that they needed to help fix bufferbloat if they wanted their cloud
based businesses to work better.

IF I felt like expending money on a marketing campaign to explain our
issue, and get some funds towards fixing wifi in particular -

the script to the video would look like this (leveraging the old
"brain on drugs" meme)

* This is your cloud based business - showing a fast, normal load time
of some major website

* This is your cloud based business on bufferbloat - showing a loaded
webload go to hell of that site

* This is your cloud based business with bufferbloat fixed -

* Any questions? =C2=A0- point back to campaign site

Then create a copy of that 30 second piece for every one of the web
service providers listed as supporting the above org. And as many
others as possible. And get it on youtube. And buy some ads.

I have no idea how much that would cost to produce professionally (?)
(at a cut above what jg has already done), but I'm certain it would do<= br> some good, both in raising awareness and maybe gaining funding for
next year.

--
Dave T=C3=A4ht

Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscrib= e.html
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