From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF473B2C5 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lb0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id ak10so5792609lbc.3 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:43:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=soltysiak-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AsF460HfCt1u6gNBQnqP1u6Bq1tUKquXlR8X/VHaSWM=; b=Sxm3ZwhNQBiZq48EGuROs8N/o2NobyVJiJzqSSxe7sWK3Cff9OBTywbQ3QYfxoXfoV qD1ZkJdD0qQmWqWo7ZIyPoT6vucZP4FYUux/5lUvwTGN349XHXcDVzM8dB2higjIBTGY JsW7J4VPTeRUWlGhOpjJ7w5CjRj9s+PFhLPCX766aDLPkEt8AIrRwGMpytn2n0RdV60o K3XTjurn8iw5DpVDql7CZzPDbDfldH7irnsHPvXZqlQQTaleJ3OR5XquZ/x3IqJg9Qyc LwlxY0G0auYznhRLKSP1sNBe3o6hPMzZyNT5a7qbGSqWRKywHnT+0hg0EC/cgXcTx7vs KLgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AsF460HfCt1u6gNBQnqP1u6Bq1tUKquXlR8X/VHaSWM=; b=Iz/UNwj2TiBxABEdnkCouOcMa4KsyNbdMG8J6vi/eds1n2u0hc7bY8/WHZt7bB/Awv HPDGiIQXEs1Zn9PdTr//GYwsfdElqFDWqx6O1HpAnYbVDt1meEGMy60gYF0DxDQdT+Um WKg5hwKtjIfrPxW6KXIM/ZfYz+FYUUsG+bqB33W7pnKHa0LiMo/lsg62wAZiPfhjkqsx uK+yyISitYcxywezGTHpiQsYqh68m045L6pVBdK7BaYi+J0Zs+eOP1lgxwhCpOt8WuqO QhkPlylwRWNxOGJKnIIKgEf2FtAU13w79L0KW2AX/0co0Ysc9La497Y5A5+8fr8zN5t3 XRLg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJAb3J+PbXlQ+8aeIzRZfMaCQuyusXPTiMaWg2ovHJVGtINz4EVyPEFW1a/6RlJiJ9YTY61uCKCo+BYIA== X-Received: by 10.194.38.4 with SMTP id c4mr10521754wjk.20.1466498595952; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:43:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.33.104 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [213.241.123.206] In-Reply-To: References: From: Maciej Soltysiak Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:43:15 +0200 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b622624e02b4a0535c5cfaa Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] eero gains competition in plumewifi X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:43:17 -0000 --047d7b622624e02b4a0535c5cfaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > I sure wish I knew how they are implementing diversity routing and if > they are bothering to pay attention to make-wifi-fast > > https://www.plumewifi.com/ "Plume is a cloud coordinated WiFi system that exponentially increases the signal strength and quality of your WiFi. It monitors your WiFi activity and balances your network load without sacrificing the performance of one device over another. Plume utilizes multiple WiFi channels in the same home to communicate between Plume Pods, eliminating congestion as your WiFi demands change and increase. Our cloud algorithms figure out which band to use for each device to ensure your devices have access to the speed they deserve, avoiding interference along the way. Plume WiFi adapts to the physical space you live in, your online devices, your household, and even to your neighbor=E2=80=99s WiFi usage patterns (yes, their networks also im= pact your environment!). It adapts real-time to your personal needs." I'm reading this as: we setup the APs on all 3 (1,6,11) channels, have the plumes record which channels have best radio and network parameters at a given time; store that on their disks over the web (sorry, cloud); then dynamically set power and perhaps other radio chip and QoS parameters to something a la heuristics: e.g. send X type of traffic on ch11 after 6pm Mon-Fri. Doesn't sound like they're making wifi fast in Dave Taht sense. More like working around the issues by multiplying channels and squeezing what they can from the radio. That may work, who knows. Anyway, this is what a consumer like me reads it. Best regards, Maciej > > > -- > Dave T=C3=A4ht > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! > http://blog.cerowrt.org > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --047d7b622624e02b4a0535c5cfaa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On M= on, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
I sure wish = I knew how they are implementing diversity routing and if
they are bothering to pay attention to make-wifi-fast

https://www.plumewifi.com/

"Plume is a cloud= coordinated WiFi system that exponentially increases=20 the signal strength and quality of your WiFi. It monitors your WiFi=20 activity and balances your network load without sacrificing the=20 performance of one device over another. Plume utilizes multiple WiFi=20 channels in the same home to communicate between Plume Pods, eliminating congestion as your WiFi demands change and increase. Our cloud=20 algorithms figure out which band to use for each device to ensure your=20 devices have access to the speed they deserve, avoiding interference=20 along the way. Plume WiFi adapts to the physical space you live in, your online devices, your household, and even to your neighbor=E2=80=99s WiFi u= sage=20 patterns (yes, their networks also impact your environment!). It adapts=20 real-time to your personal needs."

I'm reading t= his as: we setup the APs on all 3 (1,6,11) channels, have the plumes record= which channels have best radio and network parameters at a given time; sto= re that on their disks over the web (sorry, cloud); then dynamically set po= wer and perhaps other radio chip and QoS parameters to something a la heuri= stics: e.g. send X type of traffic on ch11 after 6pm Mon-Fri.

=
Doesn't sound like they're making wifi fast in Dave Taht sense= . More like working around the issues by multiplying channels and squeezing= what they can from the radio. That may work, who knows.

= Anyway, this is what a consumer like me reads it.

<= div>Best regards,
Maciej


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