From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5728200B33 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so1180872wib.10 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Q75GRpRuPT2dNIx7NwRijrRGM/fWHK6uAOjEwcEJBeM=; b=cmqpAkWzxqpCNNVQTg0XmG/z/UQAIXE7cde082sIGWxSI74yXcKsHsLpS6dkpcieCR UlN4BJ3yWRcXWjitKAkFS1CPtZ0TJsFSl6JmTogOZLhtRz0am4sf2nU5VGlba0n/cyfv qwXRoyU6tp89L8OpzCjmnpnor6XnIHeBdcf1xqQy4WsZnyjZ9mH4G9rvPZl8/aXPrwxX kXJBD8+y7uCnCuB7+Rm9+ITkjUaD3IpQ313bQ6XdN3P9ytx5NeanTzUiaiTbeqX9PfCN NuoAFNNvfh+KsqZ+APhjel59mUnxsccDh7dpJy4UPao58KwX7Ps339qE3o9rbYZcbZQt fABQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.101.136 with SMTP id fg8mr4480946wib.4.1333819730639; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.155.141 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [77.65.48.226] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:28:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: Maciej Soltysiak To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462e4c3d3af404bd1a1b90 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQngagd/VRpfF/J3QPT5gXMur9JrUnb6svjWTRv9yTzz7yQ8FIBgaSo6PUnYiHOjPZgtVsyd Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] using other packages | also, hi! X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:28:53 -0000 --f46d04462e4c3d3af404bd1a1b90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Dave, On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > Can anyone please tell me which Open WRT package set is Cero WRT based > on? > > Is it > > a) openwrt trunk - > > http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/ > > b) openwrt backfire - > > http://downloads.openwrt.org/backfire/10.03/ar71xx/packages/ > > c) other? > > Other. It is based on trunk + a few extra packages and kernel options. > > I use git from nbd's repository rather than svn. > I understand you mean: git://nbd.name/openwrt.git and git:// nbd.name/packages.git ? I believe in a previous message the correct procedure for pulling was > documented. > You mean this: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Building_CeroWrt_on_your_own_machine? The instructions seem to mismatch repository names, e.g. there's no cerofiles on your github but cerofiles-3.3, etc. I have a redmine account and I could correct the wiki but should the wiki be updated to the github, or repos renamed @ github? Keeping strategic naming might be important. This has to get cleaned up and documented better but I only got back > to working builds on monday... If I can get myself able to use the right repositories to build packages for myself I could contribute to correct the documentation. > Also, if I want to add a package, say minidlna or ntfs-3g drivers from > > openwrt, which packages should I use? > > Presently I am pulling directly from the openwrt packages repo. I will > freeze fairly soon and try to maintain a stable packages repo on > github. > I am too. I noticed some openwrt packages do not work out of the box. miniupnpd doesn't start (don't know why yet), minidlna warns about interface names changed. So there are some tweaks here and there required to make it not trip on cero-specific changes. I was wondering what would be the process to make available the packages that are stock openwrt but not in cero RC repository. I mean changing a config file to correct inteface names is trivial and isn't running a DLNA server on a debloated router a cool thing? I think it is! I note that I found the performance of ntfs-3g to be dismal and you > are far better off to reformat said drive for ext4, if you intend to > use openwrt/cerowrt as a nas. (far better off as in , 50x better off) > I found that too but I only have 1TB drive full of data and can't convert without getting another one :) Please feel free to publish your preliminary results here or on the > wiki. It is still very early days, however, and the default AQM for > bandwidth shaping remains in flux and is off by defautl (and buggy > when on) > Well, it's just netalyzr at the moment. stock wndr3800 gave me latency measurement of over 1500 ms and both upload/download was in red. I decided to finally checkout cerowrt when I couldn't play youtube smoothely for my kid when switching to full screen. Now I am in the green with around 150ms. But I would have to retest to get actual values as these are from memory. I have a 6Mb link that's about to upgraded to 50Mb. I wonder what effect will that have on my latencies and buffer bloat here. The rest of your reply needs more attention of my brain power to fully grasp as I'm fresh to fiddling with cerowrt :) Where's the debloat script? > I would LOVE some netanlyzer results from that from people with adsl, > cable modems, and other forms of uplinks, with debloat as it stands > on, and off. (and as I noted, sfqred is ON on the internal interfaces > too) > Will do, I'm on cable. Regards, Maciej Soltysiak --f46d04462e4c3d3af404bd1a1b90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave,

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:49 PM, = Dave Taht <dave= .taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone please tell me which Open WRT package set is Cero WRT based= on?
> Is it
> a) openwrt trunk -
> http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/p= ackages/
> b) openwrt backfire -
> http://downloads.openwrt.org/backfire/10.03/ar71xx/pac= kages/
> c) other?

Other. It is based on trunk + a few extra packages and kernel options= .

I use git from nbd's repository rather than svn.
I= understand you mean: git://nbd.nam= e/openwrt.git and git://nbd.na= me/packages.git ?

I believe in a previous message the correct procedure for pulling was
documented.
You mean this: http= ://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Building_CeroWrt_on_your_own_m= achine ?

The instructions seem to mismatch repository names, e.g. there's no= cerofiles on your github but cerofiles-3.3, etc.
I have a redmine accou= nt and I could correct the wiki but should the wiki be updated to the githu= b, or repos renamed @ github?
Keeping strategic naming might be important.

This has to get cleaned up and documented better but I only got back
to working builds on monday...=C2=A0
If I can get myself a= ble to use the right repositories to build packages for myself I could cont= ribute to correct the documentation.

> Also, if I want to add a package, say minidlna or ntfs-3g drivers from=
> openwrt, which packages should I use?

Presently I am pulling directly from the openwrt packages repo. I wil= l
freeze fairly soon and try to maintain a stable packages repo on
github.
I am too. I noticed some openwrt packages do n= ot work out of the box. miniupnpd doesn't start (don't know why yet= ),
minidlna warns about interface names changed. So there are some tweak= s here and there required to make it not trip on cero-specific changes. I w= as wondering what would be the process to make available the packages that = are stock openwrt but not in cero RC repository. I mean changing a config f= ile to correct inteface names is trivial and isn't running a DLNA serve= r on a debloated router a cool thing? I think it is!

I note that I found the performance of ntfs-3g to be dismal and you
are far better off to reformat said drive for ext4, if you intend to
use openwrt/cerowrt as a nas. (far better off as in , 50x better off)
I found that too but I only have 1T= B drive full of data and can't convert without getting another one :)
Please feel free to publish your preliminary results here or on the
wiki. It is still very early days, however, and the default AQM for
bandwidth shaping remains in flux and is off by defautl (and buggy
when on)
Well, it's just netalyzr at the moment. s= tock wndr3800 gave me latency measurement of over 1500 ms and both upload/d= ownload was in red. I decided to finally checkout cerowrt when I couldn'= ;t play youtube smoothely for my kid when switching to full screen. Now I a= m in the green with around 150ms. But I would have to retest to get actual = values as these are from memory.

I have a 6Mb link that's about to upgraded to 50Mb. I wonder what e= ffect will that have on my latencies and buffer bloat here.

The rest= of your reply needs more attention of my brain power to fully grasp as I&#= 39;m fresh to fiddling with cerowrt :)
Where's the debloat script?
=C2=A0
I would LOVE some netanlyzer results from that fr= om people with adsl,
cable modems, and other forms of uplinks, with debloat as it stands
on, and off. (and as I noted, sfqred is ON on the internal interfaces
too)
Will do, I'm on cable.
=C2=A0<= /div>Regards,
Maciej Soltysiak

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