[Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review

[Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review

[Dave Taht]

I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro

the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits
through sqm. the sqm-scripts
just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui...
the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on
it first time
the bad - innumerable gpl violations
the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it
at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn't
work.

I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to
openwrt without fiddlin further.


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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review

[Nils Andreas Svee]

Was kinda tempted to get one of those at one point, but seeing the
software problems with them I'm staying away. Although it could be a
nice OpenWrt box of course.

Ah yes the GPL violations. I've been asked about bringing both CAKE and
WireGuard to the UDMs, but with no sources there's not really anything
I can do (someone did get userspace based WireGuard working though).

When someone contacted UBNT support about it they responded with "We
don't have any plan to release the GPL source code for the UDM and UDM
pro yet".

I mean in EdgeMax land they might need a poke to release the archives
for a new firmware release, but they'll do it. For these however it's
been 8 months since that request and we've seen nothing.

Next time I'm in the market for new networking equipment I'm probably
not going to touch Ubiquiti again. I digged it back in the days
fq_codel was added into the firmware that we reminisced about, but
those times seems to be long behind us.

</rant>

-- 
Best Regards,
Nils

On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 12:09 -0800, Dave Taht wrote:
> I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro
> 
> the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits
> through sqm. the sqm-scripts
> just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui...
> the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on
> it first time
> the bad - innumerable gpl violations
> the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it
> at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn't
> work.
> 
> I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to
> openwrt without fiddlin further.
> 
> 

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review

[Joel Wirāmu Pauling]

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I was hoping the Lawsuit with Cambria would result in something.

tl;dr Ubiquity took cambria to court because the claimed they copied stuff,
cambria responded with their own litigation by saying Ubiquity wasn't
complying with GPL.

But they settled under NDA and we all lost out.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:44 AM Nils Andreas Svee <me@lochnair.net> wrote:

> Was kinda tempted to get one of those at one point, but seeing the
> software problems with them I'm staying away. Although it could be a
> nice OpenWrt box of course.
>
> Ah yes the GPL violations. I've been asked about bringing both CAKE and
> WireGuard to the UDMs, but with no sources there's not really anything
> I can do (someone did get userspace based WireGuard working though).
>
> When someone contacted UBNT support about it they responded with "We
> don't have any plan to release the GPL source code for the UDM and UDM
> pro yet".
>
> I mean in EdgeMax land they might need a poke to release the archives
> for a new firmware release, but they'll do it. For these however it's
> been 8 months since that request and we've seen nothing.
>
> Next time I'm in the market for new networking equipment I'm probably
> not going to touch Ubiquiti again. I digged it back in the days
> fq_codel was added into the firmware that we reminisced about, but
> those times seems to be long behind us.
>
> </rant>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nils
>
> On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 12:09 -0800, Dave Taht wrote:
> > I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro
> >
> > the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits
> > through sqm. the sqm-scripts
> > just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui...
> > the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on
> > it first time
> > the bad - innumerable gpl violations
> > the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it
> > at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn't
> > work.
> >
> > I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to
> > openwrt without fiddlin further.
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review

[Stephen Hemminger]

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Mikrotik wrote a queue discipline, labeled as GPL, but would not release
source.
That is why I don't  ever recommend  them

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:09 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro
>
> the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits
> through sqm. the sqm-scripts
> just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui...
> the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on
> it first time
> the bad - innumerable gpl violations
> the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it
> at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn't
> work.
>
> I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to
> openwrt without fiddlin further.
>
>
> --
> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
>
> dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
> _______________________________________________
> Cerowrt-devel mailing list
> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel
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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] udm pro review

[Dave Taht]

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 9:32 AM Stephen Hemminger
<stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik wrote a queue discipline, labeled as GPL, but would not release source.
> That is why I don't  ever recommend  them

I can't recommend them either, but I am happy they at least are
beginning to ship
a new kernel with the right stuff in it. I imagine all their drivers
need BQL, though.

Another recent disappointment was the ubnt edgerouter 12, a very
incompetently implemented product. Tons of offloads, and I was unable
to get NAT to work in an
hour of trying.
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:09 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been fiddling with a ubnt udm pro
>>
>> the great - 4GB of ram, really fast cpus, can push a lot of bits
>> through sqm. the sqm-scripts
>> just worked but to make it truly functional at all you need the gui...
>> the good - galene videoconferencing server cross compiled and ran on
>> it first time
>> the bad - innumerable gpl violations
>> the awful - having to register the product online in order to use it
>> at all... and the registration process for a new account... doesn't
>> work.
>>
>> I have never been so tempted to just arbitrarily reflash a box to
>> openwrt without fiddlin further.
>>
>>
>> --
>> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
>> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
>>
>> dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cerowrt-devel mailing list
>> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel



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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman

dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729