From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22b.google.com (mail-qt0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30D063B29E for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 19:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id w1so147237671qtg.2 for ; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8pxfBmOUr4AX8AqhpBFhSxOsvnTnAecfR5vgtReya5w=; b=RloEJ/IVJXyTVEpaaAeLAsXC4A6R59XdxCdgxrWeSn0vtdSdwF0RbC37PRIHpzpkWf 2BSAo1udGfK6fh7KSK7O62OpnNYB9YN+cfDbMneKI1KWwBMS3FniZlZjtHDauL8GMNcE Q030FX5I/uzHySX3Q5EOLhlTKTYD53bRW6qNRHcQD6M9vUmcTOMP558R/+r/89b/LBK4 wOcTYaFcTufXH/XyGfRSmHU6c+0MP7FggemK1rg82FbSx0JR46sXvQfqPWjdrJmP83Fd 7Mx9+/GGXQyjBNRqDxQHzulgQ1Nm5dSZbxLAKus+EZkdsBGVBQd8AL0r4Hqsj63N7AlC 6G1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8pxfBmOUr4AX8AqhpBFhSxOsvnTnAecfR5vgtReya5w=; b=qYPzjBbRQR38BKNBHGAUFrJld7SzpsBsifQHsOH9njMaEjX+vFXRxziU8RRPhefb1G J3C1xs0AZnjWaKAX6w0RF9mxm/ktlmk3XceYXSy2GFx24hXyVV9ZX8q2vja+6WuJDXah +FDsM5IXJB6aKCbn74pVcyPqDdnUxLfYyBp4sGlihckpYIkHqvi9pDuBDNJqVCBs1dNQ vddORJ5FdEkKJ4wQBRkudEVrVNOzoy6amPprnxo5Pn86d0DfgmKVinteCR7lJc09SQiM 4euyDBpunVpkN4+e4whhpDCpwOkhxPIPpcf/hY2diKqJfPagKWqRdduvFI02g/VwCHcL NnDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAKjvA8VRWRjz9OSOfAjomiOhw5DYnkFmcQaNFc3DHPCxysCeLY JV0OVFRKgq08kq4N3m9BNkYBXYqvYw== X-Received: by 10.237.36.101 with SMTP id s34mr35642156qtc.137.1496793576738; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 16:59:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2d60e776-2a4f-de66-0d2f-a36568562f96@gmail.com> <1496685154.544113991@apps.rackspace.com> In-Reply-To: <1496685154.544113991@apps.rackspace.com> From: Christopher Robin Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 23:59:25 +0000 Message-ID: To: "dpreed@reed.com" Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145bee87192ff0551536901" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] solar wifi ap designs? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 23:59:37 -0000 --001a1145bee87192ff0551536901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > wrote: >You are not going to put a good enough system for an AP up in a tree. Maybe on an antenna mast structure with solid base and guy wires. Roofs and ground are better choices. >But I would wonder whether redesigning the AP itself to be power-conserving would be the place to start. They are not designed to be "low power" - they are designed to be inexpensive. Along these lines, would using cellphone chips be viable? I'm trying to imagine a use case where decade long, maintenance free, tree mounting would be the preferred solution. The only thing I can think of is a cheap active repeater in an area with infrequent users. Push as much logic/processing back to a unit where power is cheap. -CR > --001a1145bee87192ff0551536901 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> <dpreed@reed.com> wrote:
>You are not going to put = a good enough system for an AP up in a tree. Maybe on an antenna mast struc= ture with solid base and guy wires. Roofs and ground are better choices.
>But I would wonder whether redesigning the AP itself to be powe= r-conserving would be the place to start. They are not designed to be "= ;low power" - they are designed to be inexpensive.

Along these lines, would using cellphone chips be viable?
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I'm trying to imagine a use case where decade long, maint= enance free, tree mounting would be the preferred solution. The only thing = I can think of is a cheap active repeater in an area with infrequent users.= Push as much logic/processing back to a unit where power is cheap.=C2=A0

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