From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 070563B2A4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id q40-v6so2294214qte.0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0amWAMJJjl72yoKo//dGFPif2zc+vHTQ0x3LWnx2j78=; b=P6lDsJGsrXOqn9sHl6tAvjUDo1VZm2HzSeKUsPsAXdzxYcCuJtmcIAdijskB4MktZA 3IP41iQ0J+36Su8OOx3gYC85LN2rckyWrOZl4T+CcoLfn/Ai1U2SihODjaGcRIkeCe11 Otd0tE0zHI80sCPpF/g7bMmxvZEsA9Wg2X003dMPXsuKvuiEV9oPQNb7rkSzTOdPcog6 uvrMXyUs9+daAbObBRoi9KH3o3oDIktkRpfLAjmuTlioqcFkLZxKOAWB+Be1eCwr7V7y vWDYtuVp/h2Hov2QEP4K9SYHwsjjzpxHII6URAisH5UAX1dfomOn7Qm2s5H2bUOUDPhr uz1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0amWAMJJjl72yoKo//dGFPif2zc+vHTQ0x3LWnx2j78=; b=Pqv6ySergf9HtNSR8dzP+K9kzavfamtScF6IFtq4NKlOgZVTx4I14lj20czTkgCXit gIgo4aisjrqE5Sc5/DMQ2Ycqq/Fu+tL38dxCUZt1b+x6zbjjYDGvIbltfxhiTDJcP0Kk 7SAvPYRgV7ndJLRplbcLWqm396eUDhjQ7Bjl1uVupa/4TMrzIQRoqijUn4EVn3DAEEH9 sr1wML01FUAs9Km2RdNHWd+TXZfxJpHYZCXuxyXJ9xzcZqWuLEWPRwVzGSi71zGouQoi Beyv3EfkjpZiBFpnyI0UPW0wilK2A9uS9dpe9VfQr5F6DTVDh0qMB5TW+HjvafDlhE8Y sbkA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohwMSAiNGkvUo9uZ8+1zdu2C5KVtcibYg96MGlbUhxfiBUh/Q1g 0meoJGIQ+hUudMo5awoZodu0iLvXsKIPa7xN6zbNdQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63XHivAQwN2AuXqBWU+3wy0CFyM9Zp6w9SVn2dxaCg5HGOPih+oKuX4aJdMYn/lGARpjjI3y6ds8lhBJ+zDUjs= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:709a:: with SMTP id y26-v6mr48869221qto.271.1540313052596; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10E89375-2591-49B2-9A67-AA0E14B17649@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: From: Ted Lemon Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000057e0110578e81429" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:21:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] meanwhile... .home, finally has a home.arpa. X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:44:13 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:43:36 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:44:13 -0000 --00000000000057e0110578e81429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, but that's coming. Their security model was borked. BTW, the naming architecture does handle cleaning up names. I think your use case is a very interesting one. If it doesn't work reliably, that's a bad sign. Not shocking at present, though. There are a lot of things that need to be fixed in HNCP before it can really work; I'm sorry to hear that about Babel, though. On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:16 PM Dave Taht wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:42 AM Ted Lemon wrote: > > > > That is good feedback, if depressing. I'm kind of in the same boat=E2= =80=94I > really want to do some work on this for OpenWRT, but it hasn't come up to > the top of the stack yet. The reason I was asking is that when I've sai= d > at IETF that I don't think HNCP is actually complete yet, I get a lot of > rotten tomatoes from the authors. > > Did they ever get it to work over dtls? > --00000000000057e0110578e81429 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, but that's coming.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Their security mode= l was borked.

BTW, the naming architecture does handle c= leaning up names.

I think your use case is a very = interesting one.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If it doesn't work reliably, that's a = bad sign.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Not shocking at present, though.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There ar= e a lot of things that need to be fixed in HNCP before it can really work; = I'm sorry to hear that about Babel, though.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:16 PM Dave Tah= t <dave.taht@gmail.com> wr= ote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:42 A= M Ted Lemon <mello= n@fugue.com> wrote:
>
> That is good feedback, if depressing.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm kind of in t= he same boat=E2=80=94I really want to do some work on this for OpenWRT, but= it hasn't come up to the top of the stack yet.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The reason = I was asking is that when I've said at IETF that I don't think HNCP= is actually complete yet, I get a lot of rotten tomatoes from the authors.=

Did they ever get it to work over dtls?
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