From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x834.google.com (mail-qt1-x834.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::834]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5277F3B2A4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x834.google.com with SMTP id l41-v6so1997120qtl.8 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oVnMYy/MKjH4CLMJoMaRayphjKVZTBpJtwulieHPKJc=; b=BT3hpLC/kOP1MfTebBDegiSUlC0hsR8cpapwpGva5PlqVLlGcoeZteuqg47xhN4umr 51DapfJF0eab6EO/HwpZIFs4SXSwZldgjCb7jzhyZY1LkQx+Ut58x/8wvgaZyJ2mdbnK YcPlytvDrhsx7WBNZHyGpnwlD58qxR1lzUegs9c4k0n6zJLEyhOTvp0hoHFZ+kemjFVm e6TJ+yXbh+r9WE3XLSblLJZVBXhDC28o853ML/QFadxLHFm9ZDHxPTLwDjoX5AfXH0qS YOWDi+osOWZRbk83JQy7YO77nobbHhAtDnh6bJ/kHa/ekxBE335plCJZlQZ2ig/BnzSM fukw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oVnMYy/MKjH4CLMJoMaRayphjKVZTBpJtwulieHPKJc=; b=Cojf0E4ZM/2CYYwGilCw0se+A+Uk54LPovjLg7YZe8owOR7aOIhxH43ka9vhnVuo+H qRC+qeD93pb5eAmFPKxq2N34QXdDjfxNAFeqZjV2/eX4k6GVDnRVOAAlq4rWVZeTYqLS pvijFtIt/ZlcxCX5BYW9HY09x1u27fVt/4IT5Lc0yCfDXWMXyOx5BrGRX5ZjW0SPA5gV bI9kYUF8FYlEoPQ/3/LQ7gJ8XAe8M2sGLqmHQ/YKGzyS2Q8qCBgdcoPendbDa9atSATI 7ef/n340EOku8AhtbRcBGyXAeVc8udAKJWLES6+DCxuonVkrPxWKmFIhgih3jUoww1SN O0hw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLeuNQ0hGSNdO84eQNtPGMxP/sXbf4Erel0+e5L8UffXN9WvCja GBvXODhcS0kgdfiH+EwLKWgH+7pa4HYyxs+TUpIAfg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63TMtqSRoHgeYB1Up3Rc8IUILcju6J2NUx90y/3evVP4jAwaWFGesDBkJcSHRaanLzpnp+cws5i/Rb/BrMXkC4= X-Received: by 2002:aed:33e7:: with SMTP id v94-v6mr2535489qtd.203.1540309329774; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:42:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10E89375-2591-49B2-9A67-AA0E14B17649@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: From: Ted Lemon Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007234a40578e7364c" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:21:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] meanwhile... .home, finally has a home.arpa. X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:42:10 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:41:33 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:42:10 -0000 --0000000000007234a40578e7364c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is good feedback, if depressing. I'm kind of in the same boat=E2=80= =94I really want to do some work on this for OpenWRT, but it hasn't come up to the top of the stack yet. The reason I was asking is that when I've said at IETF that I don't think HNCP is actually complete yet, I get a lot of rotten tomatoes from the authors. On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:09 AM Dave Taht wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:13 PM Ted Lemon wrote: > > > > On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:51 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > This is one of those endless bikesheds I'd totally given up on. Thx ted= ! > > > > > > If you're feeling like an adventure, you might find the latest draft of > the homenet naming architecture entertaining. > > > > > https://github.com/ietf-homenet-wg/simple-naming/blob/master/draft-ietf-h= omenet-simple-naming.txt > > Read it just now. this is an ietf notion of "simple", yes? > > > > > I decided to keep going on it since the submission deadline was > extended, so it's pretty close to feature complete except for the HNCP pa= rt. > > > > I'm curious: are you using HNCP on your networks? > > Mikael is the sole survivor here, so far as I know. > > 2 years back, I gave up on deploying ipv6 any further than the lab. > Getting dynamic ipv6 reliably into my production network... I gave up. > I asked for a static allocation from comcast, haven't heard back yet. > > As examples that persist, dhcpv6-pd renewals seem to be broken in > openwrt still, so I get a bunch of prefixes... and a few a days later > they vanish. I get static routes to nowhere, often, out of that. And: > with only a /60 available, I also run out of prefixes to allocate if > something reboots at the wrong time at the wrong place, and so on. > > > > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > --0000000000007234a40578e7364c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That is good feedback, if depressing.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm = kind of in the same boat=E2=80=94I really want to do some work on this for = OpenWRT, but it hasn't come up to the top of the stack yet.=C2=A0 =C2= =A0The reason I was asking is that when I've said at IETF that I don= 9;t think HNCP is actually complete yet, I get a lot of rotten tomatoes fro= m the authors.

On Tue,= Oct 23, 2018 at 11:09 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:13 PM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:51 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is one of those endless bikesheds I'd totally given up on. Th= x ted!
>
>
> If you're feeling like an adventure, you might find the latest dra= ft of the homenet naming architecture entertaining.
>
> https://github.com/ietf-homenet-wg/simple-naming/blob/master/draft-ietf-h= omenet-simple-naming.txt

Read it just now. this is an ietf notion of "simple", yes?

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> I decided to keep going on it since the submission deadline was extend= ed, so it's pretty close to feature complete except for the HNCP part.<= br> >
> I'm curious: are you using HNCP on your networks?

Mikael is the sole survivor here, so far as I know.

2 years back, I gave up on deploying ipv6 any further than the lab.
Getting dynamic ipv6 reliably into my production network... I gave up.
I asked for a static allocation from comcast, haven't heard back yet.
As examples that persist, dhcpv6-pd renewals seem to be broken in
openwrt still, so I get a bunch of prefixes... and a few a days later
they vanish. I get static routes to nowhere, often, out of that. And:
with only a /60 available, I also run out of prefixes to allocate if
something reboots at the wrong time at the wrong place, and so on.


>


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Dave T=C3=A4ht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
ht= tp://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-205-9740
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